The upper one is the tilt and the lower raises and lowers the painting. The lower one is the one I use the most as you can tell from the shiny bit. Problem is that because the socket does not go very far on it, I have to hold it at the socket to keep from dropping it. I tried a 7/8 long star socket but that did not work. So I had been seeing Model A crank handles online but they did not give dimensions--so if anyone knows what they are (probably too big) I would appreciate it.

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