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I'm a new member and I have just purchased a
Clearvision and a Gilbert & Barker visible pump.
I was also fortunate to find and buy a pair of what appear to be N.O.S. 16.5 inch Imperial Premier pump faces.
Now I need to find out what the color scheme was on the pump.
Does anyone have a picture of one or any suggestions on where to look?
Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks
Jim

Welcome to old gas and congratulations on the finds. The members here would appreciate pictures. I'll leave the suggestions to the more knowledgeable but most pumps were delivered in red and were modified by the purchaser. Imperial used red of course.
I would use the google search function and search old gas for whatever you're looking for. There is considerable info in the POTM&COTM entries.
www.gaspumps.info/gallery/main.php

I thought I had successfully attached pictures of
the globe faces, but that didn't work out.
I'll try again tomorrow.

I have an original Road map with the correct colors for that pump and globe combination. In fact picked it up in Nigado New Brunswick. There are many Canadian collectors who would have that map with the nice color pictures of the pump on it.
Good luck and be sure to get us all some pictures.
PS I do think that there is one of those in the picture gallery on this site.

That's great news Craig. I'll
look on the picture site for it.
Nigadoo, New Brunswick is a long way from nowhere. How did you end up with a map from there?
Jim

Drove my truck from Portland Oregon to there to pickup some twins and other antiques by myself. Long trip, got lost in Detroit, they took my money at the Canadian Border crossing and searched my truck, Could not read French on the upper portion of Canada, and had the lady there tell me my Blood pressure was 220 over 114. She suggested I go the hospital, I just got sick along the way and needed sleep.

What a trip.

Here are the pictures that were requested.
1918 to 1925 Imperial Premier 16.5 inch globe faces.
They appear to be NOS

and the question was???

I had posted a question requesting information on the proper pump colors for an Imperial pump with these globe faces.
A picture of the faces was requested , so here it is.

Imperial Oil visibles, from original paint i have seen were almost always red from base of pump, up say 24 inches then white from there up to cylinder base...
globes may have changed out over months/years but base colors were the same...they never re-painted pumps everytime they changed out globes...

Here's a pair I did for a customer about 10 years ago..

Thanks for the advice and the picture.
With this information I will be able to proceed with the restoration of my visible pump.
Thanks
Jim

I don't know if they are the exact way of doing them... I've restored a few hundred pumps since the early 60's and it really is whatever appeals to you.. these were done for an Imperial Oil employee of many years and he retired and wanted this display at his house.

Hi Jim, if your doing a visible pump from the 1920s to go with your Premier lenses you may want to consider two earlier colour schemes that Imperial Oil used. From the photos that I have come across where the Premier globe was used it was either the earlier alternating colour stripe scheme or a bit later, circa 1929 to 1931, was the solid colour. I believe it was a close match to the green on the porcelain marvelube oil jar rack. The colour scheme that Wes and Kim refer to came out in 1933. In the Sept. 1933 issue of Imperial Oil's 'The Salesmotor': "All pumps to be painted red 4/9ths of the distance up from the bottom of the pump to the bottom of the container or bowl. The remaining 5/9ths of the distance from the base to the bottom of the bowl to be white. The lamp standard and frame to be red. The wire screen over the pump bowl to be white." Photo 1 from The Salesmotor, Aug. 1928. Photo 2: Vic's Garage, Millet, Alberta, no date. Photo 3: Imperial Oil at the Canadian National Exhibition, 1931, with 3 Star gasoline, introduced in Ontario Sept. 1931. Photo 4: Imperial Oil display, Edmonton, Sept. 1929. I hope this helps. Cheers, Don.
p.s. Yes, of course the globe could have stayed on for years after a new colour scheme was implemented.

Wow Don, what a great bunch of knowledge,,, well done,,, it's always nice to have some people with a lot of research ..I never was much into the history part on this stuff.