Well I do just happen to have a nice NOS island form that AKA Mike Smith shared with me but I got it after I set my Texaco pole so I am going to save it for my next pole and island down the road.

Jack you have me thinking about the form. Do you think I could use the one I have and then take it up after the concrete is set. I want to use it at a later date because it has the form for a pole also and it matches. I will take a picture of the form and post a picture tonight.

Scott good idea about the length I think I will keep it a little longer since I have the room. Who knows what else I might want to set out on the island after its finished.

Thanks guys for all the help! I think I will use the 646's and the fluted pole. I just like the look of those pumps better. I guess it really just matters what the person who is going to be looking at thinks anyway.