Well,i do like it even though I like mobiloil stuff a bit more. Anyway, he is asking $175. I am gathering from your help, that is a pretty darn good price. I think I might bite on this one. So, for my own education, do all of these old signs have a copyright date on them somewhere? And, if it has writing on it as explained in my post, would that too be an indicator of it being genuine, or can't one go by that each time they look at a sign? Also, are the older ones steel with porcelain and thus why they are so heavy and is that too an indicator of a genuine sign? Sorry for all of the questions, but i really would like to know how to identify something as a fake or not. Thanks again for your input. I do appreciate it greatly!