Apparently he's done this three different times on eBay to different buyers with the same can !!?? Why is this guy still a member on Oldgas ?? Even if the other two buyers who got screwed don't chime in everyone on here knows Aaron's word is gold...in my opinion he should be booted from here even though the transaction didn't take place on this forum...only a matter of time before it does !
I want to respond to that, I never sell this can before, I don't know where you find that but that's false
for oldgasdutch, you send me 9 messages where I told you paypal is more complicated now than before and I never sold an item with paypal for 4-5 years ago and I thought it was working like before
it was not the price the problem, I was really happy with the price, it was ebay and paypal policy that make the problem
if you want to be exactly right here are the message of today on ebay
olddutchgas
Could you please offer further explanation as to why my order was canceled on the Indiana Oil can? Thank you.
Hi, yes for sure, it's been 5 years since I didn't sell using paypal and I was quite surprised to see how it works today, I had to send the item before I get the money from paypal and couldn't get the money until you placed a review after you received the oil can
a few years ago, I got the paiement on paypal an got the money the same day, and I could use the money to pay the shipping cost at post office
so, sorry if I cancelled the order but it was easier for me, I'm really sorry but paypal and ebay got more and more complicated to use today
Best regards
John
olddutchgas
I'm more than a little disappointed and upset right now, I was quite excited to add this can to my collection. I offered up a good and legitimate bid per and paid promptly and feel that you canceling the sale is not fair to me.
I'm upset right now too with new paypal policy and ebay if it was like it was a few years ago, the transaction would have been done really fast and easily
olddutchgas
How can we complete the sale so I can get the can and you can get the money?
I'll search a solution, usually I sell on ebay using bank transfert ( with bic and iban ) for european transaction, but I'm not sure for the usa to belgium that you won't have a fees from your bank if you do the paiement
olddutchgas
If you were worried about me leaving Feedback you could have just said so, I feel like this dialogue and conversation could happened before you just canceled the auction altogether.
olddutchgas
Shouldn't you have looked into payment options before listing the no reserve auction? I did nothing wrong and paid as was specified in your listing using PayPal, feels like I got screwed out of an Oil can I was very excited to add to my collection.
I think it's time to stop, you didn't got screwed, I got you a full refund
the price was good for me but it was the way paypal work that didn't goes for me
I collect petroliana for 10 years and I missed a tons of nice oil cans, it does not matter for me as I found other nice cans and sometimes got the chance to find them again
olddutchgas
Why would you put info the item description that PayPal is accepted then? I'm sorry it wasn't ideal for you but I did exactly as was stated in your add. The refund is fine, that's not my issue, the fact that you canceled the sale based on no wrong doing on my end is incredibly frustrating.
as I told you before, it's been 4-5 years since I didn't use paypal and in my head I thought it was the same way as before
before : buyer pay - I received the money - I send the item, so simple before
now : buyer pay - paypal has the money - I have to pay the shipping with my money - you receive the item - you have to place a review - than I got finally paid by paypal ( 3 or 4 weeks later )
but now I understand how it works and I'll never ever use paypal again, too complicated
So it's better to have the two sounds of the stories
* I though paypal was easier to use like 4-5 years ago
* I did a total refund of the item 20 minutes after the sale when I found how paypal work
* I did not screw anybody as the transaction was cancelled and refund
* people make mistakes that's because we are human
* in 10 years of collecting I missed items too, those are things and not really important
* I don't do it for business as I'm selling my collection because I stop it
thanks for reading the complete 2 sides of the story
