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Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? #720819
Thu Dec 06 2018 11:38 PM
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Today I scored my first gas pump. It’s got a great history that relates to my career and looks great setup in my house. I’ve always wanted a pump and I’m glad I had the chance to take this one home. The problem is that it is missing the top cover. How hard would it be to find that piece? I’m not looking to do a ground up restoration, just get all the outside pieces to make it look complete. I’ve checked eBay and googled some restoration sites but to no avail. If anybody could guide me I the right direction in finding one, I would be extremely grateful.

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-Kevin

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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Kevo335] #720822
Fri Dec 07 2018 02:03 AM
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Please post the Model Number and the Serial number.

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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Kevo335] #720830
Fri Dec 07 2018 07:56 AM
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Kevin,

I believe you have a National C-38 pump similar to the one pictured in my collection on the left. The missing top is usually referred to as a "step" top. There is also a smooth stainless top that goes on these pumps but the step top looks better. It's hard to tell from your picture but it looks like your missing the bracket that the top would bolt too. Step tops are hard to find and can cost $300 and upwards. I do not have extra step tops but do have some smooth stainless tops for sale.

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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Kevo335] #720831
Fri Dec 07 2018 09:22 AM
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...I think the top might bolt onto the top via the straight posts that are just visible on the left edge of the photo...can you post a better photo of the top of the pump?


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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Jack Sim] #720865
Fri Dec 07 2018 04:01 PM
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Here is a picture of the serial and model number straight from The plate.

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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Hardy's Garage] #720867
Fri Dec 07 2018 04:07 PM
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Yes sir! The C38. The step top does look better, I agree. I would like to find that one but for now the stainless top wouldn’t be the worst thing. I’d like to see it complete. I’ve attached a picture of the top so you can see if it’s missing any parts. Thanks!

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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: gulfiend!] #720868
Fri Dec 07 2018 04:09 PM
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I posted a couple top photos. I think you’re right, those posts gotta before something. Did this pump have a globe?


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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Kevo335] #720869
Fri Dec 07 2018 04:57 PM
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Here's a page from the sales brochure.
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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Kevo335] #720871
Fri Dec 07 2018 05:04 PM
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The C-38 was introduced in May of 1938, Production continued until January, 1942 when all production of my gas pumps was stopped because of WWII. Production was resumed in February, 1946 and continued until at least 1949 (information as to when the last one was made is not available). As the ID tag states your pump was made in 1946.

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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Kevo335] #720887
Sat Dec 08 2018 07:28 AM
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Nothing appears to be missing and it looks like you have a good solid pump. Gulfiend, whose eyes are far better than mine, was absolutely correct. The four vertical posts are used to hold down the step top. There are two types of step tops, one has a globe ring and one does not. Most pumps came with the light for a globe, and as indicated in your photos, the porcelain fixture was turned down if the top had no globe ring or was the sooth stainless type.

Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Kevo335] #720889
Sat Dec 08 2018 07:51 AM
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If you're going to go for a globe top, then finding an original Marine White globe would be the most expensive "part" you will need to complete it, lol!
Nice pump though, love the original state of this one.
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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: DWSheffer] #721019
Sun Dec 09 2018 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DWSheffer
If you're going to go for a globe top, then finding an original Marine White globe would be the most expensive "part" you will need to complete it, lol!
Nice pump though, love the original state of this one.
Darin


...agreed...


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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Kevo335] #721052
Mon Dec 10 2018 12:05 PM
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I might have a spare stainless steel top with the globe holder that fits an Erie parts pump that I have. I've never tried to fit it on a pump like the smooth SS tops attach. Anyone know if the stair step top will attach in the same manner as the smooth tops?

I cannot tell if the four posts are threaded for bolts.

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Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Kevo335] #721056
Mon Dec 10 2018 01:12 PM
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The 4 posts are threaded to accept a top that screws down through the globe ring. If you have a stainless step top with 4 tabs on the bottom than the top fits an Erie 129 which is a totally different pump. Smooth stainless tops fit in a manner which is unique to the tops and utilize two spacers.

Re: Gulf C38 Marine White Pump - where to get parts?? [Re: Kevo335] #721243
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Is that a MarineWhite decal or the actual pump plate? If so, rare pump plate to have..


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