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Pump Payment help! #726461
Mon Mar 11 2019 02:26 PM
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I have agreed to the purchase of a very expensive gas pump located in the middle of California, and I am at odds on how to get it paid for? This pump is not in the hands of a collector and is supposedly being sold to settle an estate? Also, as far as I know, there haven't even been any local collectors that have ever seen this pump either? From what I know, I believe the pump truly exists and is located in a small town near San Francisco.
My problem exists when I start thinking of how to get this pump paid for? I can certainly have it shipped using North American Van Lines, but I am not about to wire funds or send a check to someone I have never met and have no knowledge of? My best shot would be to hire someone, another collector, that lives near San Francisco, to go and physically get the pump and I could have NAVL pick it up at their place. Problem is, I don't know who lives close to that area. Are there any volunteers from the San Francisco area, or does anyone have a better suggestion for me? If it didn't cost so much, I wouldn't be so worried and cautious, but better to be safe than sorry!


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726462
Mon Mar 11 2019 02:42 PM
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fly out get it done
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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726465
Mon Mar 11 2019 03:19 PM
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Man, that’s a tough one. I would try to hook up with an old gaser to help confirm and secure the pump.


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726468
Mon Mar 11 2019 04:02 PM
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Wow ! A Roman has surfaced !
option 1
You have to have a little faith, or get on that plane
option 2 .
You could hire a hauler and when its loaded have them shoot you a pic ,then you wire money.Of course hauling will,charge you for idle wait time.
option 3
I would have probably just left this morning with trailer in tow.
Good Luck!


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726469
Mon Mar 11 2019 04:14 PM
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Kevin, in these situations, sometimes you just gotta go make it happen! As you know, things like this can be very time sensitive. I am with marky.....get on a plane and go before it is gone.

Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726470
Mon Mar 11 2019 04:42 PM
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Hook your trailer up and go get it!!! I am sure you have done it before. That's the fun of it Kevin

Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726471
Mon Mar 11 2019 04:44 PM
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Kevin, In my humble opinion, I'd do the road trip with the trailer. Cash and carry works best. Paul www.severngaspumps.com

Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726472
Mon Mar 11 2019 04:51 PM
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Hey Kevin it has been my experience that when there is a death and an estate there are attorneys representing family members or at least assisting them wade through the estate paperwork. If you can work through an attorney on that end, you may feel more comfortable.

Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726475
Mon Mar 11 2019 05:30 PM
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3,500 miles round trip is a long way to pull a trailer for something that's not guaranteed. I agree with Kevin about hiring another collector to go check it out.


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: Coops 427] #726477
Mon Mar 11 2019 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Coops 427
3,500 miles round trip is a long way to pull a trailer for something that's not guaranteed. I agree with Kevin about hiring another collector to go check it out.


sounds like the most logical idea of the suggestions, the easiest & one I'd prefer .. ... cool


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726478
Mon Mar 11 2019 06:14 PM
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If it is the pump I think it is I noticed it is still listed. Nice pump, would love to have it but out of my price range. If it is it, it is 2 to 2 1/2 hours from me.


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726479
Mon Mar 11 2019 06:15 PM
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I agree with someone closer to check it out. stuff goes south quick sometimes

Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726480
Mon Mar 11 2019 06:22 PM
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fly out, scope it out, rent a van one way and haul it home.

Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726482
Mon Mar 11 2019 06:34 PM
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For what it's worth my opinion is.......trust no one, fly out and inspect yourself and secure it. Especially if a lot of money is on the line.


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726483
Mon Mar 11 2019 06:37 PM
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A small uhaul is awful cheap!

Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726487
Mon Mar 11 2019 07:58 PM
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Get on the plane Kevin!!!!!


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726488
Mon Mar 11 2019 08:02 PM
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Go get it in person!


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726496
Mon Mar 11 2019 09:18 PM
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Looks like the whole deal went sour already. There was more than one brother handling this estate and it looks like I was working with the wrong one! I was told that I had purchased the Wayne 800 this morning and I relayed back that I would make payment and pickup arrangements and get back with him in the next two days. I was able to connect with someone that lived a short distance away and found out that he had already picked up and paid for the pumps. He was shocked to hear that I had been told that I was the designated buyer, and apologized to me. I told him that I didn't need an apology from him, but indeed from the seller!
This was one of those situations that we have no control over and any heroic effort on my part would have just cost me a lot of money for nothing. I am aware that flying out and securing the deal quietly, would have been the best, but I was trying to beat that timeline by finding someone to close it for me. As collectors, when we are dealing with random sellers that have no knowledge or connection to an item, we have to be both cautious and expedient in these transactions because of the greed within the human race. There could even be others out there that believe they bought this pump and have forwarded funds for the purchase? Who knows? Its a situation where we will possibly never know, but I'm happy that a collector bought the pumps, even if it wasn't me. Someone had to come out on the short end of the stick and I guess it was my turn.
I'm very grateful for all of the advice and offers of help that came forth. It was very gratifying to know that there were so many collectors out there that care what happens to others, and that's the way it should be. Thanks to all--KEVIN


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726497
Mon Mar 11 2019 09:41 PM
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This is funny...I called on those pumps this evening before I read any of this stuff and was told they were, indeed, “spoken for” but not yet picked up...this was about 6:30pm west coast time. Hope someone’s not getting taken advantage of.

Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726504
Tue Mar 12 2019 06:57 AM
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Been through this, and it is tough because of all the things listed above. If you have air miles use them, if not buy the ticket, uber or cab to the location or have them pick u up. Make the judgement, secure the pump, and have the shipping company pick it up. Do not pay the total amount till it is picked up. If it is an expensive pump, then either you just saved your self some money or spent money wisely to get your new item.


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726509
Tue Mar 12 2019 08:06 AM
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Estate sales can be very tricky since there are usually multiple family members involved along with attorneys. The family members usually have their own ideas as to what is going to be sold, what is going to be kept and to whom.

Side deals end up being made and then revoked once the deal is uncovered by other members...

It can get very ugly, time consuming and expensive for all involved...

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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726511
Tue Mar 12 2019 09:29 AM
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So let's see this pump as you said you did not get it. I am sure we would all like to see it.


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726513
Tue Mar 12 2019 09:48 AM
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Here they are.

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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726522
Tue Mar 12 2019 01:28 PM
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As this story unravels, it was indeed some conflict within the family and the closest buyer was able to get over there and get the pumps transported away. I knew it was a tenuous situation and that I probably didn't have the time to fly out to the area and get things secured. It ended up that it would have been a waste of time and money in this situation. Its really bad when you supposedly get a deal done and another family member is already headed in another direction with the whole deal. If I had been within 2 hours of the location, I could have gotten there in time, but it was not meant to be!
I feel bad that the seller could not honor his commitment, but I have no hard feelings towards the winning buyer. He also was a pawn in this whole scenario and was being used by the selling family. It just so happened that he was only 1/2 hour away and could control the situation as far as he was involved. No harm done, because I still have my funds, and I'm ready for the next deal to come along!


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726525
Tue Mar 12 2019 02:09 PM
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Sorry to hear about the out come. When I first read your post I thought this could go sideways. I’ve experienced this one time and since choose to pass on these situations.

Glad to hear there was no money lost.


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726527
Tue Mar 12 2019 02:29 PM
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I rest my case..

Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726531
Tue Mar 12 2019 04:00 PM
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like I said can go south very quick. That sucks. just had a similar situation happen.

Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726537
Tue Mar 12 2019 06:05 PM
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You might have had to board a Boeing 737 Max 8 too Kevin...meaning you have your life as well. smile


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726539
Tue Mar 12 2019 06:33 PM
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Good thoughts their Kevin along with the correct attitude. Sometimes the ball goes your way and sometimes it goes another.


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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726571
Tue Mar 12 2019 11:37 PM
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I recently lost buying two ECO 120 air meters that were out in Calif. I was offered them at a reasonable price, but I had to convince my wife to spend that much money, and second I had to come up with a little money to afford to purchase them, plus, I have been very sick this winter and sometimes I just didn't care what was going on. Well, I got everything together and said I would take them, to find someone was willing to give him a few more dollars than what he offered them to me. I don't feel bad, I should have jumped on them at the beginning.

He who hesitates.......

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Re: Pump Payment help! [Re: K W FRITH] #726652
Thu Mar 14 2019 12:16 AM
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Feels very similiar to buying a car. Need to be there with cash in hand and take it away is by far best. In all fairness to the seller, I've seen lots of people say they'll buy and don't. Just hold for me, done deal! Then dont show. With an estate sale, Id assume all sales are just talk until money exchanged.

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