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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #723106
Mon Jan 14 2019 09:00 PM
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Let me try to attach a few photos of the pump, impeller and the corrosion between the two:

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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #723107
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Here are a few pictures of the fins themselves. The valves were free and functional and with a little cleanup they fit just fine.

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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #723109
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Lastly, here is the reassembled pump mounted to the base and it turns free and easy. I did add a coat of grease to the inside as suggested.

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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724124
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Starting to think about reassembly. Paint is going on.
Since this is a Standard Oil of NJ pump (per the brass placard), I will go with a red white and blue scheme. My daughter is loving polar bears so I think the Powerine is a possible brand. I have not purchased the globe yet but I got this small sign to see if I liked it (and I do).
Waiting on the pump book and some more parts before I commit to final colors and globe.

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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724125
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Some more pics.

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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724131
Fri Feb 01 2019 12:26 PM
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I do have one question. The pump as found on the farm, had a "contains lead" placard that was way eaten up by rust. I ordered a replacement. But now I am questioning that it is likely the "lead" sign would have been added way after the pump went into service (probably 1928-35). I doubt there was a need to label fuel with a "lead placard" until way later. So IF that is the case, should I put the "lead" sign on or not? What do you think?

Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724669
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Paint going on. After my research, I realized that a solid red may be correct but it was not going to float my boat. Brushed on alkyd primer base then Rustoleum industrial color, then clear coats.

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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724670
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Assembly of pump to base and the upper support.

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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724671
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Assembly of top (temporary) to mock up electrical, conduit and determine proper length of brass rods. I replaced the badly pitted and almost eaten up iron rods with brass.

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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724672
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Working on the two original brass placards. They appear in previous posts but represent the 1) ownership by SO of NJ, and 2) the NC licensure plaque.

The placards are very thin, just between the thickness of foils and a tin can lid, and they are beat up and cracked. Help me out here. How would you preserve these with the intent of placing them back on the pump?

My thought was to use a slightly thicker sheet of brass and solder the placard to a suitable sized and shaped "backing" that would then support the rather fragile piece. Any suggestions?

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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724708
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Your pump would have had two "Contains Tetraethyl Lead" placards. You can typically look on the inside of the skins and see the 4 holes where the placards were mounted at one time. I think you have a good idea to solder a brass backing plate on the fragile rectangular-shaped tag. Then use Brasso and an old toothbrush to gentle remove the tarnish.

Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724710
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My G&B T-177 also had the UL brass tag and the brass G&B ID tag. Do you have those tags?
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Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724718
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Joe,

Neither of those placards were present on my pump "as found".
Thanks for the input. I'll post the progress as I move it along.

Rick

Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: FlyingAFlunkie] #724719
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Joe,
Any idea when the TELead signs were required?

Re: G&B Pump Disassembly Help [Re: model72] #724724
Tue Feb 12 2019 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by model72
Your pump would have had two "Contains Tetraethyl Lead" placards. You can typically look on the inside of the skins and see the 4 holes where the placards were mounted at one time. I think you have a good idea to solder a brass backing plate on the fragile rectangular-shaped tag. Then use Brasso and an old toothbrush to gentle remove the tarnish.


Agree about backing plate and cleaning but could consider using J-B Weld rather than solder.


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