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New guy with a Tokheim 39 #720087
Sat Nov 24 2018 05:15 PM
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Well I bought my first pump, a 1950 Tokheim 39. I’m very happy with it, it is very straight and only has a few spots of minor surface rust.

My goal is to do a 100% rebuild to functioning condition. I have restored a few cars and power generators, so I’m not new to restoration work, just new to pumps.

The original paint color is red, so I would like to restore it to a brand that would have used red pumps in southern Missouri. Any suggestions?

I will update when I get it home and take it apart. Looking forward to learning about these pumps!

Ben

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Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720098
Sat Nov 24 2018 08:20 PM
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If you were buying 100 gas pumps you could have them painted what ever color you wanted; have any decals put on them you had, etc. If you were buying one pump from the inventory of the local Petroleum Equipment dealer, the pump was in a crate and the pump was painted red.

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Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720137
Sun Nov 25 2018 11:34 AM
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Hi Jack,

I will definitely have to purchase your book, it looks great. I am looking forward to getting the pump disassembled and I'm sure I will have a lot of questions.

Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720145
Sun Nov 25 2018 02:22 PM
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Hey Ben welcome to Old Gas.. I sent you a PM (click on the blinking red and white envelope logo upper right corner). I salute your intentions to get the pump running again. Don't know of many guys that have done that yet. Neil

Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720235
Mon Nov 26 2018 09:56 PM
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Some more photos

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Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720237
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Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720240
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Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720246
Tue Nov 27 2018 12:11 AM
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A few things to keep in mind. If you intend to make the pump functional are you intending to pump gasoline through the pump? If so, you will be required to have a number of permits to do so, possibly some Federal permits. Also back in the late 1990s the Federal Government required that all existing in ground tanks to be removed.

There are some of us that restore their pumps with all the insides, but most of us removed the pumping mechanisms, mostly because the pumps are usually stored insides and there is about one gallon of old, very bad smelling old gasoline. You don't want that dripping on the floor of your Man Cave. There is a person here on Old Gas that sells a setup that allows the number to turn., making it look like gasoline is being pumped through the unit.

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Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720335
Wed Nov 28 2018 08:30 AM
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Thanks for the info, definitely a few things to consider.

Right now I’m trying to determine the original paint scheme/brand.
After sanding, the side and top panels have a grey primer base, then red, then blue.
The front and back panels have grey primer, then yellow, then blue, then green, then grey, then blue. Is it safe to assume the front and back doors have been replaced?

The internals and frame are a red primer, and the base is black.

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Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720336
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There was originally a lead sign on each side panel. The doors don’t have any other holes than the standard four small holes for the lead sign (they are currently covered by the MFA decal.).

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Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720439
Fri Nov 30 2018 08:20 AM
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Also, would a Tokheim 1063 be the correct nozzle for this pump?

Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #720454
Fri Nov 30 2018 02:28 PM
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Yes the 1063 is the right nozzle.

Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #721069
Mon Dec 10 2018 03:08 PM
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Do you need a 1063? I'll PM pics

Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: Myers B] #721085
Mon Dec 10 2018 07:49 PM
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Here is a link if you need it.
I am still moving and resetting up shop and am way, way,way behind. 31 yrs exp.
Thanks
Joe Yocom
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Re: New guy with a Tokheim 39 [Re: sirjunksalot] #721107
Tue Dec 11 2018 08:21 AM
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Yes I need a 1063. Prefer to find one in good-very good shape.

Hi joe. Your work is fantastic. I will certainly be sending the computer to you for work

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