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Earliest Phillips Sign Made? #718689
Fri Oct 26 2018 07:19 AM
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Hey Guys, Came across this photo of an early Phillips station. I’ve seen this globe design before and assume there are a few out there but had never seen the sign hanging from the pole before. Does anyone know if any of these signs still exist? I’m assuming this is the first Phillips sign made and would be the “Holy Grail” of Phillips signs. I’d love to hear your feedback! Thanks in advance!

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Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718693
Fri Oct 26 2018 08:36 AM
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Is that a Mobil curb sign there?


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Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Done4] #718695
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Yes it appears to be. I also have an early Phillips photo for aviation fuel that has a square 5 gallon can of Mobiloil in the pic

Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718697
Fri Oct 26 2018 08:59 AM
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Yes Les, it is....in the early days before the Socony and Vacuum merger, Mobiloil was sold by many different gas companies as many weren't really into the lubrication end yet. After S-V merged Mobiloil was mostly only sold at Mobil stations, and by that time the other gas companies started to can their own lubricants under their company names and market them.
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Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718698
Fri Oct 26 2018 09:03 AM
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appears they were having a gas war with all the traffic .. ... cool


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Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718699
Fri Oct 26 2018 09:32 AM
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Thanks guys, didn't know that. Just assumed Phillips would of had their own. Great info.


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Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718721
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Ill guess at the date of this picture. Because all the vehicles have wooden spoke wheels, I will a guess of 1920 to 1925. Wire spoke wheels began in the mid 20s with Model T Fords in 1926.

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Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718723
Fri Oct 26 2018 07:34 PM
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Believe it's the green one

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Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718724
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Thanks for all the input! Has anyone seen the 1927 or 1928 version signs before? There has to be a few that survived right?

Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718725
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I have black Phillips gasoline/motor oil 29.5” and a white Phillips ‘66’ ethyl 30” both of which I believe are pre-1930. I thought until now that those were the earliest Phillips signs. Maybe I need to visit the museum in Bartlesville??

Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718919
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Another question...I also see a “pickup truck”. My question is, were pickups being factory produced at that time or were they personally engineered by their owners?

Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718924
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Ford had a 1926-27 Model T roadster pickup. In 1928 they went to a sold cab pickup plus the roaster pickup. Richard

Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718938
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Originally Posted by Mikegoe
Hey Guys, Came across this photo of an early Phillips station. I’ve seen this globe design before and assume there are a few out there but had never seen the sign hanging from the pole before. Does anyone know if any of these signs still exist? I’m assuming this is the first Phillips sign made and would be the “Holy Grail” of Phillips signs. I’d love to hear your feedback! Thanks in advance!


There probably weren't too many of the green signs and possibly only the one shown? The photo might be from the first Phillips 66 service station that opened November 19, 1927 in Wichita, Kansas (805 E. Central). As shown, Phillips changed logos in 1928 as additional stations started opening. I need to check my Phillips 66 reference book (Oil Man: The Story of Frank Phillips and the Birth of Phillips Petroleum by Wallis, Michael) for more information.

Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718948
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Thanks for the info PetroPlus. You mentioned they changed logo is 1928, are you referring to the Phillips ‘66’ logo shown above for 1928? If so, have you ever seen that sign and how many might have survived? I’m assuming the ‘27 and ‘28 logos were only used one year and in much more limited numbers than years to follow. Thanks again
Mike

Re: Earliest Phillips Sign Made? [Re: Mikegoe] #718979
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Originally Posted by Mikegoe
Thanks for the info PetroPlus. You mentioned they changed logo is 1928, are you referring to the Phillips ‘66’ logo shown above for 1928? If so, have you ever seen that sign and how many might have survived? I’m assuming the ‘27 and ‘28 logos were only used one year and in much more limited numbers than years to follow. Thanks again
Mike


Yes, they changed the logo in 1928. I know I've seen the 1928 logo (porcelain sign) somewhere and it might have been at the Phillips 66 museum. Actually, I believe the 1927 and 1928 signs are both displayed there. It's been several years, so I don't recall if they were original or reproductions? Finding an original of either year would be challenging and likely above my budget. I've seen visible glass globes with both logos.

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