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#694124 - Sun Sep 10 2017 07:14 AM to gut or not
Craig Osbeck Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 06 2009
Loc: Portland Oregon
Many Many times this has been visited, but times have changed. Picked up a very nice 36B I believe still hooked up under an overhang. Had to unhook in which have not done so in about 20 years. This is a very nice original pump with the complete guts in it. Man is it heavy, but as I say times have changed and I am not sure that I want to keep it. I would have to restore and can't just have it this way. If I sold and of course if I kept it should I now remove the guts. Times have changed and many people want the insides still it in. Just moving it around is a misery and no way this would go into anyones house.
Thoughts people ??
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#694126 - Sun Sep 10 2017 07:22 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Fri Sep 07 2007
Loc: So. Ca.
my 2ยข - gut it, this would be a good poll question .. ... cool
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#694127 - Sun Sep 10 2017 07:25 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Fri Oct 13 2000
Loc: Locust, NC
I think everyone knows my opinion by now on guts. Here's what I do now. If I'm going to sell it, I leave intact and advertise that I can gut for them. If I'm keeping it, it's getting gutted....

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#694132 - Sun Sep 10 2017 09:18 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Tue May 17 2005
Loc: Illinois
Keep the guts in it,for what ever you do.
But if you go against the norm today & gut it,let me know how I can pick up those guts up from you so I can give them to someone who has a 36B. smile
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#694133 - Sun Sep 10 2017 09:26 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Mon Aug 03 2015
Loc: UT
Keep it complete and original as possible.

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#694141 - Sun Sep 10 2017 10:49 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Mon May 07 2012
Loc: Michigan, Union Pier
Craig, could you post a pic?
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#694157 - Sun Sep 10 2017 02:21 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
Craig Osbeck Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 06 2009
Loc: Portland Oregon
Here is that pump. Top is suppose to be on the property but we can't find it. They will let me know.


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Edited by Craig Osbeck (Sun Sep 10 2017 02:23 PM)
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#694158 - Sun Sep 10 2017 02:23 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
Craig Osbeck Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 06 2009
Loc: Portland Oregon
Can't believe the camera does not work anyway but this. I can change the picture and it still goes back to sideways. I do have the little plate there, just took it off. No tag, pump plate screw holes either.
sorry


Edited by Craig Osbeck (Sun Sep 10 2017 02:24 PM)
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#694162 - Sun Sep 10 2017 03:05 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
Done4 Online   content
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Registered: Mon May 07 2012
Loc: Michigan, Union Pier
Thanks Craig, man that is a real nice pump as is. I would clean it and love it!
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#694163 - Sun Sep 10 2017 03:07 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Thu Sep 20 2007
Loc: Hillsdale, Michigan
Agree....love the look of that one!
Darin
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#694164 - Sun Sep 10 2017 03:22 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
Craig Osbeck Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 06 2009
Loc: Portland Oregon
Were the trim pieces painted, polished or plated, they are pretty good but seem to not have been plated.
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#694166 - Sun Sep 10 2017 03:34 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Mon May 07 2012
Loc: Michigan, Union Pier
Craig, I have seen them plated, stainless and painted on my pumps.
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#694176 - Sun Sep 10 2017 05:37 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
Craig Osbeck Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 06 2009
Loc: Portland Oregon
How much do you think a ad glass top would run If we could not find the one here?
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#694197 - Sun Sep 10 2017 08:54 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Sat May 26 2012
Loc: Hays, Kansas
Leave it original 100% complete...
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#694200 - Sun Sep 10 2017 09:33 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
keithia Offline
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Registered: Fri Dec 14 2001
Loc: USA
Times have not changed on this topic. Still a few that want guts in most don't. No way I would put one in the house with the guts in and anyone that knows how to handle a pump could easily steal with guts in. Kind of the same issue as with cans with or without oil. The norm on that one seems to drain them so why not gut a pump??
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#694207 - Sun Sep 10 2017 11:00 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Sun Mar 10 2002
Loc: California
Hard question to answer! Braden would have bought my farm fresh 36 B if zip had not gut it in on the farm in Nebraska! Well my trailer was full and already heavy so guess what we gutted that heavyweight on the spot! Now I still have it.
Rob

BTW those are heavy even without guts lol !!!

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#694208 - Sun Sep 10 2017 11:11 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
MATT ALVAREZ Offline
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Registered: Sat Sep 23 2006
Loc: Cameron Park,Ca.
It sounds you are going to sell it, so I would leave it up to the buyer. The buyer may not want them and at that point you could offer to remove the guts for them. For me it is a better deal to buy a pump without them. It has not stopped me from buying a pump with guts. There was one I was not going to buy because it had guts, the guy lowered the price so I took it.
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#694218 - Mon Sep 11 2017 06:29 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
cggas Offline
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Registered: Thu Oct 02 2003
Loc: northern in.
36b tops are expensive.... I think the last one I sold brought $650-$700. But u may get lucky & find a deal. I personally would gut it. Chris

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#694222 - Mon Sep 11 2017 08:06 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Fri Jul 01 2005
Loc: Raleigh, North Carolina
...I'd leave them in...and I'm pretty sure there already has been a poll on this topic...those with a large collection of gutted pumps have a vested interest in perpetuating the narrative that a hollowed-out cabinet is somehow more desirable than a complete gas pump...

...also, it's considerably easier to make a living 'restoring' gas pumps by scrapping the motor, etc...needless to say, it would be easier to restore old cars and vending machines as well, using this method...some will say 'that's different - I'm going to drive the car, but I'm not going to pump gas; and what's a car without an engine?'...well, what's a gas pump, without the pump?...I'm sure collectors with 50+ Coke machines don't have them all full of product, running 24/7 - yet I don't know anyone who guts their drink machines, to make them lighter...ditto for those who collect vintage radios...
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#694236 - Mon Sep 11 2017 10:59 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: gulfiend!]
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Loc: Locust, NC
Originally Posted By gulfiend!
...I'd leave them in...and I'm pretty sure there already has been a poll on this topic...those with a large collection of gutted pumps have a vested interest in perpetuating the narrative that a hollowed-out cabinet is somehow more desirable than a complete gas pump...

...also, it's considerably easier to make a living 'restoring' gas pumps by scrapping the motor, etc...needless to say, it would be easier to restore old cars and vending machines as well, using this method...some will say 'that's different - I'm going to drive the car, but I'm not going to pump gas; and what's a car without an engine?'...well, what's a gas pump, without the pump?...I'm sure collectors with 50+ Coke machines don't have them all full of product, running 24/7 - yet I don't know anyone who guts their drink machines, to make them lighter...ditto for those who collect vintage radios...



Don't drink the Kool-Aid folks! ~ guts ain't never gonna make a pump more valuable, just ain't gonna happen!

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#694243 - Mon Sep 11 2017 12:47 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Thu Dec 13 2012
Loc: Wisconsin (South Central)
Actually, when you really think about it you have to ask the question, "Why do I collect gas pumps?" For me, it is because they are really cool works of art and for me, that work of art doesn't need the internal mechanism to make it any more pretty to look at. Gas pumps aren't collected to operate like soda machines and cars, they are different. Those they leave the pumps in are never pumping anything ever. I don't collect things as investments, I collect them because I really like them because they are cool. Same with signs, globes, and cars. I am a collector not investor. I would just love the day when the bottom would fall out on all this stuff and then I can have more of it. Just my 2 cents on the subject.
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#694245 - Mon Sep 11 2017 01:02 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Sat May 15 2004
Loc: Sherrill NY
I'm on the fence as far as gutting or keeping intact. As of late my thinking has been that 50's (short) and newer pumps are getting gutted. The older 20s-40s (tall) pumps are staying intact. I currently have an Erie 80 a Bennett 371 and 1 50's Gilbarco with guts due to very nice original condition. My Smithway L-1 and my Wayne 511 are gutted and restored.

I'm not a huge pump collector I only have 5 right now down from 6. I sold one to a neighbor because he's wanted one forever.
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#694253 - Mon Sep 11 2017 02:47 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: nochevys]
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Registered: Sat Aug 07 2004
Loc: Oregon
I've changed my mind somewhat over the years. Used to be I gutted everything and I certainly am not opposed to that. But lately, I've been leaving pumps in the rarer stuff I get just because I've become a bit more of a purist. That being said, in 25 years of slinging pumps I've NEVER had a sale affected by whether or not the pump was gutted.
My 2 cents.

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#694268 - Mon Sep 11 2017 06:59 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: RandyM]
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Registered: Fri Jul 01 2005
Loc: Raleigh, North Carolina
Originally Posted By RandyM
Actually, when you really think about it you have to ask the question, "Why do I collect gas pumps?" For me, it is because they are really cool works of art and for me, that work of art doesn't need the internal mechanism to make it any more pretty to look at. Gas pumps aren't collected to operate like soda machines and cars, they are different. Those they leave the pumps in are never pumping anything ever. I don't collect things as investments, I collect them because I really like them because they are cool. Same with signs, globes, and cars. I am a collector not investor. I would just love the day when the bottom would fall out on all this stuff and then I can have more of it. Just my 2 cents on the subject.


...well, I'm a collector, too, and an historian...IMO, the preservation of history - with a focus on historical accuracy - takes precedent over 'pretty'...that goes double for whimsical paint schemes...our hobby would do better in the long term to attract more historians; we've an overabundance of 'investors' as it is, and they're considerably more fickle than history buffs...
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#694279 - Mon Sep 11 2017 08:43 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
Wasatch Man Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Mon Aug 03 2015
Loc: UT
Guts in a pump don't make it more valuable . I disagree here is one guy that would pay more money for a pump with all the internal parts , and depending on the pump it could be a lot more . Peter

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#694283 - Mon Sep 11 2017 09:29 PM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
Craig Osbeck Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 06 2009
Loc: Portland Oregon
I certainly see all the different reasons for leaving in or taking out. I believe though that after seeing the thoughts that if I do decide to sell this I can take them out for whomever or leave them in and they can pay the extra shipping price. It will then become their question.
10 years ago we would probably not be having this conversation as much.
Thanks
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#694602 - Sat Sep 16 2017 09:27 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
Paul Bell Online   content
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Registered: Sun Jan 08 2012
Loc: Northern CA
Still have never had anyone request internal pump kept or restored.,. Lots of upsides to gutting...easier resto, less smelly, reduced fire hazard, less likely damaged in shipping, etc.

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#694612 - Sat Sep 16 2017 10:54 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: Craig Osbeck]
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Registered: Tue May 17 2005
Loc: Illinois
So it's a matter of convenience for you?
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#694614 - Sat Sep 16 2017 11:38 AM Re: to gut or not [Re: Cold Pizza]
Paul Bell Online   content
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Registered: Sun Jan 08 2012
Loc: Northern CA
It's convinient, yes, because moving around heavy gas pumps that are restored is not fun. But it's more than that too, not many people are willing to pay the cost to restore internals and I'm not a huge fan of having gassy items in people's businesses or homes, same for old wiring for that matter. Don't want to burn somebodies house down because I don't no where these restored pumps may go. (And there combustible sometimes).


Edited by Paul Bell (Sat Sep 16 2017 11:39 AM)

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