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Early Fry 17 with external pump #690718
Tue Jul 18 2017 05:13 PM
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I happened to stumble(literally) upon an early Fry 17 with external pump and no base. I was just curious as to the value of this pump as compared to a regular or more common 17.
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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Catauladave] #690720
Tue Jul 18 2017 06:12 PM
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Not many made I've been told?


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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Catauladave] #690722
Tue Jul 18 2017 07:29 PM
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They never had a base...


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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Catauladave] #690723
Tue Jul 18 2017 07:35 PM
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I have seen quite a few over the years. My understanding is that the ones that have cast iron skins do not take a base, but the ones with the sheetmetal skins do. I have seen two different length of handles for these pumps as well. The shorter one goes on the pumps with the base, the longer handle on the pumps without a base.


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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Ryan Underthun] #690732
Wed Jul 19 2017 01:41 AM
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Ryan, I also have seen them with and without the base. Value wise ? 25%-50% more ? Dave
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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Catauladave] #690734
Wed Jul 19 2017 04:46 AM
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I think at least 50% depending on condition Mine has a cast base
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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Catauladave] #690745
Wed Jul 19 2017 08:09 AM
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Here is mine and it has the cast base with stamped skins.

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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Catauladave] #690758
Wed Jul 19 2017 12:50 PM
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and mine is different the fill pipe from the pump goes into the top casting not the bottom casting
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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Done4] #690776
Wed Jul 19 2017 04:31 PM
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That looks like a 117. Dave


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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: nuts66] #690798
Wed Jul 19 2017 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted By nuts66
They never had a base...


So all these external pump 17s with bases are wrong?
I don't agree. Mine has oval cast iron base with filler tube to the top. What little I know about them is no base is earlier then base model,and they are seldom seen compared to the base models. I'm no help you know all this. You have Jacks books compare then add years of crazy prices.


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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Loyd Pierce] #690821
Thu Jul 20 2017 01:26 AM
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I think...You will find Fry pumps in almost every conceivable configuration because they were updated constantly due to technological advances and modified by jobbers to keep them in operation. Who can really say what is NOT correct ? They are a "fun" pump. I am still amazed to find them behind barns and out by the road. lol Dave


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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Catauladave] #690889
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I have couple of pics somewhere where non base models are on a concrete base,they had to be raised as tanks were under seat add the big wheels and your way on up there. Remember they were for the most part gravity flow pumps early on. Only made good sense for factory to add bases to make them more use friendly.
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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Loyd Pierce] #690921
Fri Jul 21 2017 10:00 AM
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Always welcome comments and info. I appreciate the input. Dave


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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Catauladave] #690925
Fri Jul 21 2017 10:23 AM
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I bought a fry 17 with cast base with correct pump and handle,cast top, sheet metal skins front is normal rear is for external pump the top casting has no hole to fill thru This pump was removed in the 50s and the guy(in his 90s)I got it from has had it in his garage since then Just backs up Dave's thoughts

Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Catauladave] #691019
Sat Jul 22 2017 09:33 PM
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Dave do a google search with in this site--fry with totalriser.
1st topic by south fl gas has some info about them,the professor speaks from the grave in this post.LOL!


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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Loyd Pierce] #691043
Sun Jul 23 2017 11:10 AM
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Could not find that to which you were referring. two year limit range on articles. Dave


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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Catauladave] #691052
Sun Jul 23 2017 03:22 PM
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topic My new fry also works using the goggle search box right hand corner top of page. posted in 2011 works for me don't know why it doesn't for you. If you can't get it pulled up DB states cast iron body with no base 1918 through early part of 1920. Also made mention that a body sold for 2 grand at show in 2010.

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Re: Early Fry 17 with external pump [Re: Loyd Pierce] #691078
Mon Jul 24 2017 03:10 AM
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Got it this time Loyd ! Thanks again, Dave
PS The pump that I found does not have the totalsizer on it.


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