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#682053 Mon Mar 13 2017 01:02 AM
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What your thoughts on do I put a globe on it or not? The top does not have a hole. Or leave as is? I am not repainting it. Thank for any in put.

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It is always comes down to personal preference, but if it were my pump, I would not add a globe to it. In my opinion putting a globe on the short 80's makes them look top heavy and in this case would detract from the original patina.

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Ditto !!!

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I think the same as the others! Not every pump needs a globe to complete it. If you have a lot of globes, pumps are an easy way to display them, but several pumps were designed to go without and look good doing it!


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Can't say I disagree, unless of course you have a factory globe mount top.

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...leave it, or keep your eyes peeled for an original patina top with a globe ring...


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Thanks for the help. I am just leaving as is. All good points


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Coming from the factory the only 80 pumps with a globe attachment were the Series 4 and 4BR (cyclops).

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One more question should I got it or leave as is? most of mine I gut. Thanks


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I would have gutted before I put in shop, just my 2 cents!!

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What about a script top??


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Ya I have that about that. I have one but not the same paint look.


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Someone on FB found a few in a river a month or 2 back. They were Mobil if I remember right.
I don't think they made a script top for Texaco tho????


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Ya I remember seeing them.


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Originally Posted By Jack Sim
Coming from the factory the only 80 pumps with a globe attachment were the Series 4 and 4BR (cyclops).


That's what, I use to believe. I was in Washington on a road trip and personally held a nos Wayne 80/MS 80 top with a stamped depression for a globe ring. I tried my hardest, to buy it...but, it wasn't for sale.


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I just sold one of those tops Friday. Chris

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If you have anymore, please PM me.


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This one has h factory globe top. It also has no sight glass & has the stainless steel on the side. Sorry Dave this is the last globe depression top I have, but I'll keep an eye out for anymore.

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So the Wayne 80 and M-S 80 are the same pumps? They have lots of different parts if you ask me. But I am not a pump expert.


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Exactly the same pump, except the name plates. Chris

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Thanks
I lean something new everyday. I thought a lot of parts would inter change but not that many.


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Obviously the globe mounting ring is repo. Chris

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Nice pump buy the way.

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Chris, I've never seen that (smooth) stainless side piece before.


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I've seen it on a few.... maybe it's a regional thing? Kinda like sum of your Canadian pumps are different than what I find in Indiana? Chris

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Some time ago I listed all the versions of the M&S/Wayne Model 80 pumps. There are over 32 different versions. Remember, when Wayne bought out M&S, Wayne moved everything they had In Ft. Wayne to the M&S factory in Salsberry, MD. This was now the official home of Wayne.

Before Wayne moved to Maryland they announced some of their new pump that were coming out. The brochure I have shows all the pumps you are familiar with, but in the middle is a pump that says "Model 80" under it. This pump was never made because when Wayne purchased M&S Wayne decided to continue making the M&S 80 under the Wayne name using the same 80 number. I have been saving this brochure to use in an article for either CTO or PCM when I decide to start writing again.
It appears that Wayne decided to continue making the 80 (all 32 versions) but that didn't last long, Wayne when they put their name on the pump alone (no mention of M&S) they eliminated a number of the versions.
I have a number of M&S 80 parts catalogs, also some M&S/Wayne parts catalogs and lastly some Wayne 80 only parts catalogs that confermins the above. Now what any person/service station owners/rebuilder/decides they are going to take this scrip top/top with a globe holder etc. off of this junk pump on put it on a 80 that never had a script/globe top on it we can't determine.
We need to loosen up, just because we saw one pump with something different doesn't mean that 20,000 identical pump had that "something different."

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Any idea on what year this pump might be? When was M&S fully eliminated from the 80 series face plates?

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