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OK I know this has been discussed on here before but having an issue getting one off my 60. I have been on it with a pipe wrench and a three foot long cheater pipe and I can't budge it. Threads off counter clock wise right? Not sure what else to do.


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Yes, counter clockwise. Sometimes heat and leverage is the only way. The nut removal tool is helpful as well.

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lots of Kroil maybe.


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Ok thanks. Never have seen how the nut removal tool would help other than getting a grip on it. How do you get any pressure on it with that?


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More for if you're trying to save the nut without breaking off the tabs. If you don't care about that, pipe wrench is the way to go. Heat it up a little and put a 3' pipe on for leverage...it'll come off.

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Originally Posted By keithia
Ok thanks. Never have seen how the nut removal tool would help other than getting a grip on it. How do you get any pressure on it with that?


Grip and torque are the two key elements in removing anything threaded.

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Kieth: Most makers of the Wayne Nut Wrench put a square 1/2 hole in the handle. This is for you to put a 1/2 Breaker Bar or ratchet for leverage. If there is white putty-looking material visible around the nut base, carve that out with a razor knife. Pre-soak for a few days with Liquid wrench all around glass and nut, and finally a LITTLE heat around perimeter of the nut only. You are trying to by heat, expand the nut and break the seal. Quickly apply increasing pressure on the nut with the wrench before it cools. Once the nut moves, don't stop before all the way off. You may squirt a little oil on threads as nut comes off. You may have to reverse direction a little sometimes. Remember: "Lefty-Loosey, Righty-Tighty" or clockwise=tighten, counterclockwise=loosen. Go slow to avoid damage or injury. Ed.

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These were really tight on my Wayne 60. I used the sight glass removal nut from gas pump heaven, but when I put a cheater pipe on that square socket fitting it actually began to round out on the inside. So, I took a 3 lb sledgehammer to it. I hit the removal tool on the side of the tool where it flares out. I was able to get the nut to loosen by doing it that way. I didn't use any heat due to concern with breaking the sight glass. I did soak the threads with kroil beforehand.

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Had the same problem with my ring wrench rounding out the corners so I welded on an old socket and have no problems since I did this.

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Good solution!

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Thanks guys. I am going to take all these tips and go at it again. Those darn things are tight though!


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I made this tool a while back it works good. Probably took a half hour once I found the right sized pipe. Since I made this, I think I found out that you can make one out of an oxygen tank safety cap-the screw on guard. Use a long-three foot concrete pin or solid pipe for leverage and a little heat You will be surprised when you see how much torque you can put on there when you are pushing and pulling with two hands. They came out with that cheesy tool after my original dilemma. I like mine better. Heres a link http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=208208#Post208208

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Jim, that is a great idea. You'll never break that thing!

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Still can't get this thing off. I have sprayed it, tried chipping out the putty but it is really hard and I have had a pipe wrench with a 3 foot long pipe on it and hit it with a sledge hammer and it still won't budge. Not sure what to do. I don't have anything to heat it with so I have not tried that.


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Keith,
I never get near glass with a torch. Maybe I'm too timid but I always worry I'll break the glass. I think the sight glass is made of borosilicate (same stuff as Pyrex I think) but still I'm too afraid I'll break the glass. What exactly have you tried tool-wise? Can you send a pic of the tools you're using "in action" so I can see what you're going at the sight glass with? Mine was pretty tight but with the removal tool and a 3 lb sledge I was able to get them loose.

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Sight glass is already broke hence the reason to get the nut off.


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VICTORY! I ended up getting one of those camping type propane tanks and heated the nut up. Came off without too much trouble after that. It did catch my WD-40 on fire that I had sprayed on and that probably helped too. LOL.


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Ok I got a problem, the external nut took 2 minutes to get off with heat and a wrench on mine but the ring inside that holds the glass in is fighting me big time, any help!!


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Originally Posted By Yellow57
Ok I got a problem, the external nut took 2 minutes to get off with heat and a wrench on mine but the ring inside that holds the glass in is fighting me big time, any help!!




Make a tool that fits into the slots using a piece of flat bar and an old socket. Lube the threads and let them soak for as long as needed. PB blaster works good, 50/50 mix of Coke and ATF works good as well.

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FREEDOM oil items wanted.




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Cool, I've done heat and and a screwdriver with no luck and a big hammer with no luck, so I'll soak it and do the bar thing!!
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