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#611526 Mon May 04 2015 05:28 PM
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Let me start by saying I am new to the forum and the wealth of info here is great! I just purchased a 1947 Wayne 100 gas pump with "No-Nox" in the small window below the digits window. The glass is white with No-nox in blue. My question is... How would this pump have been painted in the early 50's Gulf scheme if it were ordered in a large district like Detroit or Cleveland? i have not been able to find pictures that I think seem correct. Also, there are rivet holes for a sign on the door under the windows. What type of sign may have been here? Would a "Good Gulf" with intertangled G's be appropriate? Any help here would be appreciated or even some period correct pics would also be great.

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It could of been any of these color combinations with your pump ,depending on your pump plate

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Given that you mentioned the reference to no-nox it would have the blue base with white top.

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To answer you second question, no-nox is the premium grade, good gulf the middle grade and gulftane the base grade. You would not mix up good gulf and no-nox on the same pump. It is one or the other.

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Thanks for the photos! This pump has a 1947 date on it I believe although it is hard to read. Here is a photo of the pump. I believe the NO NOX glass is original to the pump. It has been there a long time by the looks of the rubber.

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Nice solid straight pump. You better watch out because your garage is going to start filling up with pumps. one leads to 2 leads to 12...


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Looks like a nice clean straight pump .

HI-OCTANE #611546 Mon May 04 2015 06:38 PM
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Ha Ha, yeah, he has a 57 Bennett that I almost got too. I couldn't decide so I went with the older one. I may go back and get the Bennett tomorrow. I can see where this could lead to an obsession.

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What is the name of the book that the picture above came from? Wouldn't mind getting a copy for reference.

trucktricksdon #611553 Mon May 04 2015 07:45 PM
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PCMs Guide to GAS PUMP RESTORATION by Wayne Henderson and Scott Benjamin

This book is a must for this hobby . imo

HI-OCTANE #611557 Mon May 04 2015 08:14 PM
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Interesting pump. Gulf almost always used pumps that had custom cabinets that were created to meet Gulf image standards. However, individual dealers who owned their own equipment were of course free to use whatever was there, within reason. Also, the handful of Gulf jobbers that existed at that time (most were commission agents that operated Gulf owned plants and were tied into Gulf supplying equipment) were also free to use whatever pumps existed in the field. That said, any pump with a Gulf ad glass is rare, as the standard designs did not use them. I would go with the white over blue 1952 image, which likely would have been the longest lasting image on this pump. Signs are easy to find, and it would look good.


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I kind of thought that too Wayne. With the white bottom band showing behind the more recent blue spray paint, it almost looks like a previous owner had the opposite blue/white theme going on.

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Very nice find. Does it have an NO-NOX ad glass on the reverse side also? It is contagious! I added 4 more this year

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Very cool looking pump!
Like the guys said, if you do the white over blue, and can hook up with one of those blue No Nox plates like in the picture, get a period nozzle, and it's going to look fantastic!!

BTW, although simple, that add glass is awesome in it's own right!!!

Here's a link to a blue plate that sold last Dec.
http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=585013

You may want to contact the seller/buyer and get a hole span dimension from it. Who knows, maybe they're ready to sell already. Maybe someone here can confirm that all these plates have the same hole pattern and you don't have to worry about it.

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Steven C. #611608 Tue May 05 2015 06:41 AM
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Great info! Thank you. I was reading that as well about Gulf and the special pumps. Ad glass was not used on GOC pumps so this is definately an individual owned dealer equipment pump. The No Nox glass is on both sides.

Now here is the weird part...I have been able to confirm that below the blue spray paint, there is indeed a layer of white/blue paint opposite of what should have been for the early 50's. However, upon further inspection. it looks like below that layer, there is a layer of Orange on the bottom, white on the top, and separating the two colors right at the middle of the glass level, is a two inch blue band. If you look in the book at the Gulf schemes of the late 40's it mentions orange, white, and blue band paint schemes. This pump has two holes in the door on both sides where the sign was originally attached and those holes are 10" apart, so waa it most likely a round "Gulf NO Nox knockproof sign" on the door?

I think my goal will be to put it back to it's original state and trying to figure that out is one of the most fun parts of the hobby. The book talks about a 1" blue band, this is definately a 2" blue band and it was added after the orange and white layer it seems.

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