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Mon May 04 2015 01:35 PM
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Hello all, I am trying to finish a Gilbarco 96B pump.I have a set of originaldoor trim that I am trying to install. The factory mounting studs are missing. I got the correct size bolt to attach with but am having problems. I am trying to use JB Weld to fasten them to the trim. It looks like it would work but as soon as you apply any pressure while tightening them you hear a pop and the JB Weld breaks off the trim. Does anyone have any experience in repairing these? How is it done? Thanks for any information.
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Your best bet is to drill through the trim and the door. Then bolt in place. Always stays tight. Paul www.severngaspumps.com
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Hi Mike,
We happen to have a GB 96B we havent touched yet (cool pump BTW), I think you are missing part of the assembly for the trim. The studs mount to a track on the door, and the trim snaps on to that track.
Ill post a pic in a minute.
(Added pic, the trim simply snaps on to the track that is shown here. Mine fell right off when I pulled on it) Im not sure if that track is something you can buy, hopefully so! Otherwise you could either bend something out of metal or probably easier increase the glue surface area of the stud mount by using a bolt with a fender washer attached and potting that to the trim with five minute epoxy. You need a larger surface area to bond to. Could also bolt the whole thing together like mentioned above too, but I could see how having the bolts showing is less than ideal depending on how picky you are!
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We made some mounting tracks years ago when restoring one. They worked as good as the originals.
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Thanks for those replies. I would rather not drill through the trim if I didn't have to. They are pretty straight originals. I have had another 96 and it had those brackets like you have pictured. I think this is a different setup. I have one of the orininal trim pieces and it looks like the factory has a brass bolt brazed to the trim. I have included a couple of picks. I wonder if I sandblast the back side of the trim and use some type of epoxy if it would grab the metal better?
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Few ideas come to mind.....
5 minute epoxy is good stuff but you need more surface area, if you added a fender washer to the stud and glued to that, top and bottom, that'll hold. I've done something like that before. Sandblasting helps but it's not a miracle cure. I once tested a joint before and after sandblast for work and it added like 20% to the strength.
Most hardware stores have threaded studs with a flat top, like dime size, can't remember what they call them. Those are handy too.
Could solder in studs into those holes too.
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That trim looks like a five foot Gilbarco 994 (I believe that's the number) that had the hole in the center. The closing mech with a slotted end came thru this center hole. The end of the trim had holes that were used to fasten the trim to the door. I've only seen the six foot 96 pumps use the trim that snapped onto the bracket. Only the bracket fastened to the door. I've seen lots of variations of these pumps. Brady
Check out the Gilbarco 906 thread - that is the door trim I am referring to.
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IMO, the best way to add a stud to the trim would be to have the stud tig welded to the trim. Then polish the front side of the trim, to have any discoloration removed.
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How hard would it be to buff out the discoloration of the heat on the trim? I know it's stainless so it's tough. I've done my share of buffing and polishing trim but never for heat discoloration. Thanks again to everyone for their ideas and input.
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Easily done with a buffing wheel and some abrasive applied to the wheel.
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Thanks Dave, I bought some Gorilla 5 min. Epoxy and going to try that to see how it works. If that doesn't work out I'm going to take them to the local welding shop to have them tig welded.
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Exactly. My 996 uses the 3-hole style ribbed trim. This style trim doesn't mount on the rails. You need to source the "smooth" style trim. Check out this new trim here: Gilbarco smooth trim, no holes or stud
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I think the epoxy is going to work. I dug through my old parts and found the original faster bolts that was on the trim. Cleaned them up and worked on the threads. Used a small amount of epoxy on each stud and let it dry 24 hours. seems like it may work. Time will tell with the temp. changes though out the year. I posted a couple of pictures just to show ya.
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I'd be surprised if that doesn't work and hold up. Those little "wings" on the stud should really help. i do a lot of epoxy joints for work, looks Bueno.
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Tbert1, what brand/kind of epoxy did you use?
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