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The "Short Bell" indicator was used by more than one company.
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A few companies used markers that did not have the traditional indicators that could be adjusted by sliding them up or down on a rod or bar.
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I am down to the last company, Gilbert and Barker. I've already shown some pictures of sales literature as well as some photos and an appeal for input. Unfortunately there was no input and I do not know for sure what was used when, and on what model. Following are a total of 9 photos to help you. These are the models that need to be identified:
67 - 10 Gallon - Possibly Identified T-176 – 1925 – Version 1 T-176 – Square Version T-176 – 1926 – Version 2 T-176 – 1928 – Version 3 T-177 – 1925 – Adj. Stops T-178 – 1926 T-179 – 1927 – Mechanical Measure
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More potential G&B indicators.
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Did G&B used painted and raised numbers? Any particular models or year?
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Tim,here's a couple photos of gallon markers on a Dayton 300. I'll try to get some better shots in the near future.
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Thanks Jim. I guess I wasn't expecting an etched cylinder. Good Photo. It appears the pump has the same markers as used on the Dayton 100.
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Wayne Boyle/Dayton alongside a Keesee.
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I thought G&B would be one of the easiest indicators to define but have found it to be the most difficult. They used quite a variety of shapes and styles and I see the same kind in a lot of different models. I know that jobbers, owners and restorers alike, would often use whatever is at hand, but G&B seems to be the worst at trying to determine any kind of consistency. This even applies when looking at old photos, sales literature and pumps that look "original".
I'll throw this theory on the wall and see if it sticks. When G&B came out with a new model they would also come out with a new indicator style. Not only the new model would have the new Indicator style but all other models in production would have the new indicators installed as soon as there existing inventory had depleted.
Now the challenge: Using the number under the indicators in the picture below, place them in order from oldest to newest. Example: ( 1,2,5,6,4,3)
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I was finally able to obtain a clear photo of the back of a rivetless shield indicator showing it's mounting method.
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I spotted this nice Martin & Schwartz F100 visible at the Pate swap meet with the shield shaped indicators
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I bought M & S visible above, anyone know it that is the right top and #'s??
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In reply #406752 I indicated that Western Visible probably used an etched cylinder. In further research I found they used "Decalcomania", which is a fancy french word for a decal.
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Killer reference thread.. Thanks all for the contributions.
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