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Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate #261682
Tue Jul 05 2011 09:19 PM
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Picked up this sign at Columbus and was wondering if anyone had seen one like it before?



It's marked "IR 56" at the bottom and is the same size as many other Mobil shield pump plates - 12.5" x 12.5"



It's shown here beside a Mobilgas PPP, with two smaller truck cab-top signs above. Someone suggested it might be a truck door sign, which makes some sense to me. The only truck door signs I've seen are shown below.....if this is one, then I'd expect a right-facing mate to be out there somewhere.



I got it from a well known collector who found two of them 15+ years ago. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has this sign or knows how it might have been used.

Richard

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Re: Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate [Re: Pegasus] #261685
Tue Jul 05 2011 09:28 PM
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Nice addition..


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Re: Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate [Re: advertologist] #261756
Wed Jul 06 2011 04:45 PM
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I sure hope someone pipes in that knows something about your new sign. I am stumped and eager to be educated along with you. Great find!

Re: Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate [Re: JamesD] #261830
Thu Jul 07 2011 05:24 AM
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just a guess. Whats the chance they are mistakes from the maker ?

Re: Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate [Re: always lookin] #261890
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I was thinking the same thing Bill, that maybe they were factory mistakes or signs that weren't completed. As you can see in the photos, there aren't any "flaws" that would cause the sign to be rejected because of quality.....it looks pretty near perfect to me.

I'm wondering about the manufacturing process itself. It's my understanding that the colors were applied one at a time.....in this case 1st the white background, then probably the red, and finally the dark blue. If that's the case, the blue outside border, the blue Pegasus border, and the blue "IR 56" were applied but not the product name. That leads me to think it was left off on purpose. Either that or maybe the worker had a six-pack for lunch & just overlooked it!!! Certinly not an impossibility, for sure.

Richard

Re: Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate [Re: Pegasus] #261897
Thu Jul 07 2011 03:57 PM
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It is known that for products that were considered "minor", specifically Mobilgas Marine and Mobilgas Aircraft, that blank globe lenses were supplied to company plants with the pegasus in place on a blank background. Decal kits were provided, and the appropriate decal was applied to the globe lens in the field. These are rare, but a few are known. I feel like that this pump plate was used in the same manner, supplied to company owned plants to be decaled as needed, so a large stock of signage for minor products would not be required, and could be supplied for use quickly as needed.

Wayne Henderson
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Re: Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate [Re: Carolinatraveler] #262091
Fri Jul 08 2011 08:53 PM
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Thanks Wayne for that insight. If Mobil made "generic" globe faces with decals to be added as needed, then it's logical to assume they would have needed pump plates like this one to use on those same pumps. And if only a few globes are known with the decals, that would explain why these signs are apparently quite rare.

After views by approximately 300 Oldgassers who I assume had some interest in the topic, this explanation makes perfect sense. Mystery solved, as far as I'm concerned.

That being the case, it seems only fair that I should get to name this unusual sign. "Generic" just doesn't get for me. So......by the power vested in me by the American Society of Sign Hoarders/Owners Ltd, I hereby name this sign the Mobil "Blank" Five-Point Shield Pump Plate. (In case you were wondering, the above mentioned organization is also known by the acronym ASSHOL)

Richard

Re: Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate [Re: Pegasus] #262109
Sat Jul 09 2011 03:12 AM
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I wonder how many people belong to that society?


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A decal is the first thing I thought of too to place in the empty area....as to customize grade or product.


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Re: Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate [Re: Gas stuff.com] #262174
Sat Jul 09 2011 01:59 PM
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Forgot to mention one thing about this sign. I want to publically thank fellow Oldgasser John Jarvis. He spotted the sign out in the vendor area, then looked me up in the auction room, told me about the sign, and went with me to the vendor's space so I could examine and buy it. Without his help the sign would most likely be hanging on someone else's wall. Thanks buddy...I owe you one!!!

Richard

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Re: Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate [Re: Pegasus] #262218
Sat Jul 09 2011 07:18 PM
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Here is one I have with No Blue..
Top center to point on center bottom, 13"

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Re: Unusual (?) Mobil Porcelain Pump Plate [Re: advertologist] #262226
Sat Jul 09 2011 09:13 PM
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Randy....that looks like the "Southwest" version of the shield. The bottom point is slightly longer and 13" is the exact measurement. It appears they didn't add any of the blue color, either around the Pegasus or the thin blue border. I'm guessing there aren't many others like yours out there either. Cool sign.....and another one to be on the lookout for.

Richard


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