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TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? #261289
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HOW DO YOU TELL A 36 FROM A 36B PUMP???????


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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: hotrodfun1] #261291
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36...External Visi
36B...Visi Bowls in top of Face

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: hotrodfun1] #261292
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A 36 has a visi gauge and a 36B has a sight glass. That is the easiest way. A 36 has a inspection door on the side to see the totalizer a 36B does not. A 36 does not say Tokhiem on the face bezel a 36B does. There are more small differances but the above are the most noticeable.


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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: MATT ALVAREZ] #261294
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Thanks for the help i got a 36 today.


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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: hotrodfun1] #261325
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Can someone please share a 36B picture?

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: henlovestoys] #261327
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Here is a 36B. My buddy bought it a couple weeks ago.



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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: MATT ALVAREZ] #261329
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Thanks Matt!

BTW, do 36 version of CLOCK-FACE pump come in two different models as well?

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: henlovestoys] #261331
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Yes, the 36 and 36B came in clock face versions. The 36 is rare, I only seen two in photos. Here is one of them.



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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: MATT ALVAREZ] #261333
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So what is harder to find a 36 or 36b?


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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: hotrodfun1] #261334
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Thank you, MATT!

I tell ya, there is so much to learn! Thanks to hotrodfun1 to start this thread!

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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: MATT ALVAREZ] #261336
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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: hotrodfun1] #261337
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Originally Posted By: hotrodfun1
So what is harder to find a 36 or 36b?

There are a lot less 36's out there than 36B's [w/ tops!].
Most pumps of either that are Missing Tops had Glass Tops that got broken.

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: Dick Bennett] #261338
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Thanks this is the one i got this weekend,anybody have a top or visa gage?

36 pump.jpg36 pump1.jpg

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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: hotrodfun1] #261339
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Good luck with a top. You will probably have to get a repop top that does not fit correctly. Visi gauges are hard to come by even though they were used on three models. Tok 870, 34 and 36 used the same visi.


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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: MATT ALVAREZ] #261340
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#36 has a special 10 3/4" computer size I have seen in no other pump.
Took me 3 yrs to find one back in the day.
The 8" and 12" computers will not fit right.
Will be doing a couple for Southfloridagas next week. cool
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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: jkyocom] #261367
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I now where there is two 36b tops that have the add glass will they work?and can you tell that mine was a glass top.I would have to step up to buy this two because they are parts pumps and have to but all the stuff he will not sell parts.


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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: hotrodfun1] #261370
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Quote:
I now where there is two 36b tops that have the add glass will they work?

Tops will have to be cut & side bars & top plate replaced.
Never tried it, but the factory used an adapter plate Under the top when they cut a 36B to work

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: Dick Bennett] #261447
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This is indeed a great thread & very informative. I had no idea that I preferred a 36b all along (of course one with clock-face). I sure like all of AD GLASS that comes with the pump.

I have been told one can convert a computer version to that of a clock-face. Can an average collector notice the conversion using a conversion kit?

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: henlovestoys] #261453
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IF it was done correctly, probably Not. But most that do convert stop short & that is a Dead give away. YOU will always know even if no one else points it out.

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: Dick Bennett] #261455
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This top is a Factory converted 36B top to fit the 36.

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Originally Posted By: Dick Bennett
IF it was done correctly, probably Not. But most that do convert stop short & that is a Dead give away. YOU will always know even if no one else points it out.


Thanks DB.

Do you by chance have a picture of an ORIGINAL 36BDP (clock face) vs. a CONVERTED one from a computer?

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: henlovestoys] #261465
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So is the top on HuskyBob's pump all glass or is that steel? I found a 36 earlier this year on craigslist that had that same top. By the time I called him, it was already sold. I sure was bummed.

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: Kyle] #261466
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Glass Top & is taller than a Metal top.

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: Dick Bennett] #261524
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The conversion face looks different than the original clock face. Here is a link showing the two faces.

http://www.gaspumpheaven.com/shop/home.php?cat=350&sort=orderby&sort_direction=0&page=2


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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: MATT ALVAREZ] #261539
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Thanks i have leared alot also about the two pump they sure look like the same pumps but when you start looking there are a lot of stuff that is not the same.Thanks for the help I did get a VISI-GAUGE Just need a top now.

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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: hotrodfun1] #261544
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This one is long gone now, but keep looking.

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Should i take the guts out?????

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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: hotrodfun1] #261547
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Personal Preference, Most do.
Everything below the round part under VR.

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: Dick Bennett] #261619
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what I would like to know is WHY
did a #36 pump use a smaller computer that is unique
to that pump.
Tokheim Factory screw up?
Did Veeder Root have to make a head and price wheel shelves to compensate for Tokheim's screw up?


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Maybe VR screwed up anticipating the next pumps after the Wayne 40/40A & Tok. 34 would be needing 10" VR's. Tok. might have gotten a Great Deal on buying all 10" that VR produced.
Might be putting the shoe on the correct foot!

Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: hotrodfun1] #261667
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Did you buy the two parts pumps? Hugh

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No not yet am going to look this weekend.need parts?they are both 36b pumps


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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: Dick Bennett] #261689
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Originally Posted By: Dick Bennett
IF it was done correctly, probably Not. But most that do convert stop short & that is a Dead give away. YOU will always know even if no one else points it out.


So what do you guys think a factory complete 36 with with the converted top that DB shows here and good visi-gauge would go for these days? Might have a shot at one.




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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: Old Racer] #261702
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OR.... I paid $1,100 for mine last year.

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Hotrodfun1, I need a complete nozzle rest/reset assembly if you get one. Thanks, Brady


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So maybe $1200 is in line. I guess they are not getting any cheaper. Thanks Bob.




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Re: TOKHEIM 36? OR 36B? [Re: Old Racer] #261755
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I'm resurrecting and old Post! Lol I learned what kind of frame and door I have! Awesome info

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Here is some literature I sell for the 35B. You can click on any of the pictures to make them larger.

http://petrolianacollectibles.com/tokheim%2036b.htm

My email is jhsim@petrocollect.com if you are interested in anything.

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