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Please - NO offers to Buy or Sell in this forum category
Statements such as, "I'm thinking about selling this." are considered an offer to sell.
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looks just like something that ol' db got into some years back.
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WOW! Thats a first.......
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Depending on the condition & rarity of the cans, just might be enough there to Pay for a new garage.
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If you dig out that Veedol High Detergency can and it has the white lettering and a "Flying V" logo, I will know where they all went. LOL
I would like to find a garage like that!
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There was one of these found in Arizona too I believe.
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buy yourself a hammer and chisel and go to work, See you in a few months.
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Cans anyone
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Too many years ago and I can't remember all the details, but a guy showed up at the Columbia, MO show in Jan, years ago with some very rare cans. It seems he found them in a nursery where they were using them to start plants. He found cases of cans that they had never used.
Some of you guys who have been going to "It's a Gas" for years might remember this and correct me or add to the details.
Also there was a guy who went into a oil company warehouse, around 1990, and found over 1000 handy oilers that had never been filled, along with lead tops for all of them. They were from 1938.
It was me.
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ARE YOU GOING TO DIG THEM OUT INDIVDUALLY? LOOK IN THE ATTIC. NICE FIND THERE!!!!
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THAT'S ALOT OF CANS! ANY IDEA ON WHEN THE GARAGE WAS CONSTRUCTED? I WONDER WHAT "R" RATING THOSE CANS WOULD BE. LOL!
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What a great find. Jack Sim I remember that year. According to my inventory records it was 1998 and he was selling quart cans (Mobil, Mobil Special - the aluminum cans and the steel slightly newer ones and penzoil at least those are the ones I choose) uncleaned at a $1.00 a piece and when I called about the better quarts he said he wanted to hang on to them to "see what they were worth" I know he mentioned signal. The man was either from WA or CA. can't remember right now and my CTO from those years are at my garage. I bought one case and they were so nice I ordered a second one - 48 cans and still have them. John
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What a great find. Jack Sim I remember that year. According to my inventory records it was 1998 and he was selling quart cans (Mobil, Mobil Special - the aluminum cans and the steel slightly newer ones and penzoil at least those are the ones I choose) uncleaned at a $1.00 a piece and when I called about the better quarts he said he wanted to hang on to them to "see what they were worth" I know he mentioned signal. The man was either from WA or CA. can't remember right now and my CTO from those years are at my garage. I bought one case and they were so nice I ordered a second one - 48 cans and still have them. John The guy was from WA. I bought several hundred cans from him and did pretty good selling and trading them. There were several versions of Mobiloil, Mobiloil Special, Lubrite, 3 or 4 versions of anti-freeze and a few Pennzoil. 1998 sounds about right. The cans had been used but the tops were cut out of allot of them. Seems as though the guy that had previously owned the green house/nursery had collected empty cans from area service stations and stored them under a building...which just happened to be a convenient place to drain the cans.
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What a great find-Would like to see what kind of cans are in there!
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That is way cool, would make an awesome backdrop for a display of globes, pumps and non-mortared cans.
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IF I HAD TO DO IT, I WOULD CAREFULLY KNOCK OUT A SECTION AT A TIME AND REPLACE THE CANS WITH STUD WALLS. I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW WELL THE MORTAR/CEMENT/MUD(?) COMES OFF. THERES GOT TO BE A FEW HUNDRED QUARTS THERE.
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More like a Few Thousand, just in the few pictures shown.
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Left side of pillar of 11th picture;
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Great find! If I owned it, I would spruce up the building and leave it as-is. The graphics on the cans are either already destroyed where in contact with the mortar, or will likely not survive removal. The building is historically significant. It reminds me of the "bottle houses" scattered across the country -- for more info, read here: http://www.agilitynut.com/h/bh.htmlI would love to have a building like that, and would be quite proud of it. Wes
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I am totally in agreement with Wes.
I'd love to have a building like that, even if it meant extraordinary measures to keep it intact.
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You'd be surprised at the conditions of the cans even being stuck together w/ concrete. Only the ends that are exposed to moisture will/do have rust. Just look at the pictures posted by itsagas. Most cans will look like those. These were Not my find of cans; & one of the finders with one of the Walls of Cans in N.M.;
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THAT'S ALOT OF CANS! ANY IDEA ON WHEN THE GARAGE WAS CONSTRUCTED? I WONDER WHAT "R" RATING THOSE CANS WOULD BE. LOL! Our best guess (as there isn't any documented history) would be in the early to mid 50's. BTW - what is an R rating?
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"R" RATINGS/VALUES PERTAIN TO INSULATION IN WALLS & WINDOWS. LOL! LIKE R-13, R-19 FOR THERMAL RESISTANCE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-value_(insulation)
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"R" RATINGS/VALUES PERTAIN TO INSULATION IN WALLS & WINDOWS. LOL! LIKE R-13, R-19 FOR THERMAL RESISTANCE. Oh, of course. Duh....... ha ha
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I don't think we will be able to save the building. So, in the spring, I will probabaly demo it myself and "carefully" save the cans as best I'm able.
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COME TO THINK OF IT, THE "R" RATING OF THOSE CANS SET IN MORTAR IS PROBABLY LESS THAN A WOOD ONLY FRAMED GARAGE WITH SHEETROCK! LOL!
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I don't think we will be able to save the building. So, in the spring, I will probabaly demo it myself and "carefully" save the cans as best I'm able. You could save/repair it easier and cheaper than you can replace it.
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Not to mention the permits, inspections plus the cost of the demo.
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the cans are cool but its the ugliest garage I have ever saw, If it is saved it would be just like another roadside attraction like the "Worlds biggest Hair Ball" in the Chevy Chase movie. I think it is more valuable disassembled. DEMO IT
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I think i would have to demo it too, and have a nice new, bigger garage with a bunch of shelves for oil cans. I think if i didn't, i would always wonder what was in there. Just for the entertainment alone! (hours of treasure hunting) Have fun!
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the cans are cool but its the ugliest garage I have ever saw, If it is saved it would be just like another roadside attraction like the "Worlds biggest Hair Ball" in the Chevy Chase movie. I think it is more valuable disassembled. DEMO IT LOL! I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE WORLD'S BIGGEST BALL OF STRING, NOT **COUGH-COUGH HAIR-BALL COUGH!**
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the cans are cool but its the ugliest garage I have ever saw, If it is saved it would be just like another roadside attraction like the "Worlds biggest Hair Ball" in the Chevy Chase movie. I think it is more valuable disassembled. DEMO IT LOL! I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE WORLD'S BIGGEST BALL OF STRING, NOT **COUGH-COUGH HAIR-BALL COUGH!** SEE, my exact point, years from now it would be known as the garage built with coffee cans. A Meaningless building IMO
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Please take a picture of the roof framing when you open things up. The round roof may have some interesting structure to it. Certainly had some unusual wall framing!
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If they are curved trusses those could also be sold for some extra cash
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CAUTION:...BAR REJECTED Comedians have raised their ugly heads on oldgas...!
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There is a big difference in cans in mortar with lime than cans in dirt. I am sure that there is going to be some deconstruction return money especially if you do most of the work yourself. If the concrete is packed tight it will be less recovery value, and I wonder if all the cans are empty. Then were do you store all the cans while you do the deconstruction so that they are not getting more dented and scratched? May be a big party of old gas guys and lots of boxes. Check the upper structure and maybe some nice items up there. you will be starting all over with the foundation anyway, so there goes the slab also. Do you have to remove it? Less cost to keep it and build another.
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Cribbing & replacing a section at a time IF the foundation is good, is what some of us are suggesting.
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what about the calcium in the mortar .....
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I wonder what several hundred Polly cans,Avio cans,or Palomino cans encased in mortar are worth$$$$$ I would have to look and see what was there. Its kinda like a time capsule. What cans were around back when that old building was constructed??
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Thanks for all of the input, guys. When spring arrives I will be tearing the garage down. I will keep you posted with pictures of what we find.
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Take lots of pictures! Documentation will really help with can sales too!
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Well. After a agonizingly long and particularly irritating winter, spring has “finally” arrived. So the demo begins. The roof coming down. These pieces fell out from above the overhead doors. All that's left is the walls. My good friend Rich, starting on the cans. He and I are doing the demo. I would guess that roughly half the cans are worth saving. This is representative of the condition of most. Others are nicer and a few quite nice. We will be sorting them all by brand and condition. And we have discovered a few unusual ones. Unusual to us, anyway, and will post pix soon. First section nearly done. Rich, contemplating the next section. The task will become more tedious as the outer layer of cement contains chicken wire.
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I found a dug out north of Belfield that was lined with quart cans, a lot of them being Avio and Ace High quarts!! Most were destroyed but did get a fair amount of them. That was 20 years ago, sold a lot of them before i knew what i had. There are still cans lining the walls but scared the darn thing is going to fall in on me. Want to take a chance?? HaHa.
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...looks like you'll have some business for DB as well...can't wait to see the pics of the oddball cans...
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Isn't that the darndest thing you've ever seen?!
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There's got to be a constant smile on your face the whole time you are laboring these garage walls down to the ground LOL!
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The cans pictured so far are quite common. Are there any unusual ones so far?
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WOW!!! My first time seeing this post.. What an amazing find
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They are all amazing, not cause of what they are but, where they are !
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Awesome!Just cool discovery!
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Any chance you've found about a half dozen of these ? Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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Well. We are making progress. One flipping can at a time. Gawd ! ! ! The preferred method is to pound on the outside of the wall with a post mall. That breaks up the cement and helps loosen the cans. Most can have cement stuck to the top, so we pop it with a hammer to remove most big chunks. Many cans still have cement stuck in the spout hole. And others have chunks of cement rattling around inside. Many have ended up in here. Thus far we have saved over forty 30-gallon trash bags full. And my next post will show you some of the cans we’ve saved.
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MAN, that has got to be fun! Kind of like more modern archeology! I envy you! Thanks for the update!
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Let's see a picture of inside the roll-off dumpster. Before sending the dumpster off, put a few of those better cans on ebay. Cans that I was throwing/walking away from are selling on ebay [don't post pictures of walls on ebay where they were found].
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I'll post a couple of pics of the dumpster fodder. Most everything we tossed was in very poor condition.
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We're starting on the top of the final wall. You can see they smashed the top row of cans to make the header fit. These are the cans in the dumpster.
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Now that's a full dumpster !
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Have ya done a Rough estimate of how many cans were there? Could make a Guessing Contest out of that! LOL Some of the RED/BLUE band White cans [PERMALUBE], top left in last picture look good enough to save. I'm sure some of the Newbie collectors would love to have some of the cans you consider as Junk. I realize that you can't save all & some are not worth saving.
Hope you do an article w/ pictures of your find for one or both of the Petro Magazines.
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I'D BE AT THAT DUMPSTER ALL DAY WITH A PAIR OF METAL SHEARS CREATING POP ART!
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HEY DB!! There's your source for lids and bottoms LOL!!!
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LOL BUT, takes soo much time recovering just the lids! Try opening a can of Tuna, W/O destroying the lid & can be re-sealed to look like it was never opened = time.
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Pardon Me but that stuff they are imbedded in looks like cement, is it?
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Pardon Me but that stuff they are imbedded in looks like cement, is it? DEF LOOKS LIKE IT TO ME...OR AT LEAST SOME FORM OF IT COVERED POSSIBLY BY STUCCO ON THE OUTSIDE (AND INSIDE?).
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Yes. It is cement. Some portions of the walls broke apart fairly easily, the rest hammered apart like they were made of... ahem, cement. These cans were in the wall side-by-side. Some were nice, some were not. We suppose that some manufacurers used a higher quality of paint than others. ie Penzoil held up the best. The walls are finally down and all cans that were worth rescuing are in good hands. All cleaned up. "THANK YA' JESUS" (said with gusto and a southern drawl) Time permitting, I will be posting pix of some of the cans tomorrow.
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Looking foreward to the pictures!!
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At one time there must have been an article in Popular Mechanic's Magazine as there have been Several houses/garages all over the country built w/ cans/bottles [in High Desert of Calif & some in New Mexico have been discovered].
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OK guys. Here's a few pix. I saved a couple of pieces of cement that showed an imprint of the can. These were unusual because most of the cement broke as we hammered down the walls. We called them fossils. Here is a few of the cans. Some were one-of-a-find. Others were common. The rest of the photos are of the same cans only a little closer. [img] http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/naw48005/DSCN3075.jpg[/img] I would love to hear your comments, feedback, criticism, whatever. Thanks.
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Do you want to sell that historical Hyvis can? Frank
I collect anything Hyvis oils
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WHERE ARE ALL THE INVADERS? LOL!
You should figure out which ones you want to save for yourself and then offer all the rest of them to us on a first come first served basis at a reasonable set price (to you) with an accompanying photo of the garage (a 10¢ drugstore 4x6"), so that some of us (like myself) could have a piece (or more) of this historic "Garage made of oil cans" history. I already see a few that I would consider buying from these pics alone. Just a thought.....
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...those Direct Service cans are pretty sweet...
...looks like you have a good foundation for a new building...
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Looking for better Gulf items: signs, globes, cans and paper - especially porcelain Gulf flanges, and Gulf A-38 & A-62 ad glass...
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Hi to everyone. Thanks for the interest in our oil can garage demo. As you can imagine, I've received many messages about the cans.
Here's my story... I have been extremely busy this summer with various labor-intensive projects. I expect to be finishing most of those sometime late October. After that, we plan on sorting, cleaning, and posting the cans on ebay.
More details to follow.
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I know it's been a long while, but an update is in order. After the cans have been stashed away in my storage barn for two years, they finally have a new home... to an avid collector by the name of Nathan. Here is a few pics of him during the unenviable task of sorting and boxing cans for transport. I'm glad they went to a good home.
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Great to see this again,am sure the newbies will love it!
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It was quite an adventure to go pick these up wayyy up north. Neil was great to deal with and was fun to hear the story of the building in person. Lots and Lots of cans.
It took me almost 5 hours to sort and load the cans and I was hustling.
Some of the cans are turning out pretty decent when cleaned and there are some that are going to be for the rust lovers out there!
If you need some Quaker States, Pennzoils, etc to fill your rack at a good price, PM me.
Thanks Again Neil! Nathan
Collector of Illinois Oil Company, Iowa Oil Company, Round Outboard Motor Oil Quarts, St. Louis Gas Pumps, Double Cola, and anything else awesome.
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Dang Nathan ,you musta drove right by!
Looking for gas,oil related clocks,especially neon and spinners .clock repair available. Mick
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Man, I can't imagine shingling that barn.
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Now, thats a BARN! Would love to have that.
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