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I agree with Advertologist that the last one sold in Mattews auction was NOT an original...The sign that Signofthepast has up for sale is original imo....
IMO the ONLY Texaco Marine or Texaco Motor Oil signs with the boats and seagulls,etc. that are originals have an ink date stamp on the left side of the sign...
The marine signs have been reproduced probably 5 times in the last 20 years and each one tries to be perfect from changing the dates to fixing the script on the boat but they seem to miss something each time...anyways there are far too many signs out there compared to the tiny bit of advertising to be found....i asked earlier if anyone has even a picture of a marine sign in use on a building or can rack and no response...there are thousands of photo's of old texaco stations and not ONE with a marine sign in one...guess that shows the ACTUAL rareity of the sign....mm


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..there are thousands of photo's of old texaco stations and not ONE with a marine sign in one...guess that shows the ACTUAL rareity of the sign....mm



Wouldn't the Marine signs, just mostly, have been used in or near the marinas? Maybe just a small amount been used at service stations? Just asking, don't really know...


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Why wouldn't one have been used in a service station to promote and sell marine products to the general motoring public? Seems to me that a lot of individuals probably owned boats and would benefit from using those products???


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Of the many other companies that sold Marine/Outboard oil, how many of you have seen a picture displaying the cans or advertising?

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Because Texaco was cheap especially with Independent Stations. (Giving out advertising pieces to the owners). I'm assumimg porcelain signs single and double sided were not cheap in their day ? I'm also assuming that Marine products was a very small portion of their business. Yes, big Marinas did land them gas and oil business. Those also were the ones that had the 2' X 8' signs outside them that came with white & blackT's. You can find dozens of the signs in photographs. My father usually had a case at best of outboard moto oil in the back room. His good customers would just ask for it, on weekend trips to the lake or they would mix/fill at the pumps with their old outboards tanks. Owners did not have room for marine racks plain and simple. Cigarette, pop, and candy machines feed that owners family. If a owner had the room for a oil rack you can bet it was full of 20 weight.... I'd also bet that most marine signs and racks were at marinas inside the buildings. That is why we can't find photos of them. I've been searching 12 years for them and other Texaco photos. I have found one photograph with a 8" X 12" Marine Ships Wheel Pump Plate...

It should be noted by any serious Texaco collector, that these signs also came with BlackT's both on painted metal and porcelain...

On another note, Has anyone EVER seen a Texaco Upper Cylinder Lubricant display rack from the early 30's, the ones that held the bottles ?

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Maybe just maybe the reason these crooks miss something on a reproduction could be the difference between jail and prison time. "But Judge look, "It's not the same sign"

They do this and all (better not say all) reproduction signs on purpose that way............ From Coke to Ford, do you guys all honestly think in todays age, someone can't copy the correct font to use ?

All these years on oldgas for me and no one has ever mentioned that !

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Blacktee: Long story short. I did see apicture of an old texaco station in Montana that had a Marine sign and oilrack. It was near a lake, not on it...The guy who owned it was in his late 80s when I met him and he had several marine signs (still in original shipping carton) amd had some marine rack signs in the shop. I was never ale to convince him to sell me any and he died a few years later. When I got up to that area later, the shop and house ahd been torn down. Couldn't track down any relatives. Good to see you posting again Doug.


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Is there anybody on here that owns one of these
(an original) so we can see what the back looks like?
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will post pic's in a day or 2...


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How long ago was this when someone actually copied a whiteT and not a blackT ?

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Why aren't we all over the blackT reproduction on this thread ? $795.00 (another child needs college). No date, shows a photo of the back, just because he mentions it's new does nothing for the next guy. Oh that's right he's a member here !!! I feel the boot present. : )

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[quote=blacktee]KZ1000

How long ago was this when someone actually copied a whiteT and not a blackT ?

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I do not not recall white/black T, it was several years ago. My comment was meant to be another jab at how repros have ruined this hobby. This post is a Great example.


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Really makes me glad I stopped collecting. Here's your exact same sign. Only this time the seller forgets to mention touch ups in the field? Maybe I'm just full of myself ? : )

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http://www.signofthepast.com/offer/details/Texaco_Marine_Lubricants-22



Aummans Auctions Runyan Auction 4/30/05-5/1/05 Lot 33 sold for $1500.00 Description states several touch ups in the field.

http://www.aumannauctions.org/cgi-bin/mnarcsearch.cgi

http://www.aumannauctions.org/cgi-bin/mnarcview.cgi?aumann/20050430

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Lets try this again ?

http://www.aumannauctions.org/cgi-bin/mnarclist.cgi?aumann/20050430/category/ALL Lot 33

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blacktee------thanks for the heads up on the texaco sign...i bid on it & i now see the truth.....this seller has a problem...

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Totally agree KZ , keep jabbin. Good to hear from you again Blacktee. Your expertise on texaco is something I value because I'm not sure about these signs either. Maybe if we keep this thread going we can all learn something. these signs have been a problem for some time now. keep it civil ;;;;;;;;;;;Ron

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I'm not pointing any fingers, I'm showing you that this sign was sold 5 years ago. That Aumann's stated that it had touch ups in the field? Kinda hard to think they'd put that in there if they weren't ???

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