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#176765 Tue Feb 23 2010 09:50 PM
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Okay... so I am sending off my Veeder Root from my Wayne 40 for a rebuild, the sheet metal is mostly gone, anyone know where I can find replacement sheet metal for this?







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I DON`T HAVE A ANSWER FOR YOUR QUESTION BUT COULDN`T HELP SEEING YOUR HIT-N-MISS ENGINES IN THE BACKGROUND OF YOUR PHOTO`S,,,,WHAT CO ARE THEY???? I COLLECT OTTAWA ENGINES FROM KANSAS,,PM ME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND,,I DON`T WANT TO DISTRACT ANYONE FROM YOUR TOPIC....TXS ALAN



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While Alan has you distracted... uh is that a BMW-Isetta in the 1st pic. Last pic a 30 Mdl A ? nice collection of engines too!

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I have a large container of Veeder-Root sheet metal, I just don't know what it fits if there is a difference.

BTW, is that little car a Goggamobil, if not what is it.

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The 8 inch computers take a one piece sheetmetl cover, but there are two or three types.


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While Alan has you distracted... uh is that a BMW-Isetta in the 1st pic. Last pic a 30 Mdl A ? nice collection of engines too!


Looks like a 46-48?? Crosley in the first picture.


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Is that a 1967 model 51 Leasure Dream chair? It looks like the burnt orange model, the one they called the THINKING Chair?

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We have a winner.... it's a 1948-1/2 Crosley. The coupe is a 32 Chevy.




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There is a difference between a 1934 and 1935
sheet metal.
That is a 1933 and will take 1934 type sheet metal on top
I have never seen the bottom band intact on that model.
The guy who changed the price threw them all away mad

http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=176202#Post176202

Maybe we could all sweet talk Scobie into making a batch or two of tops on the laser cutter.
I could use a couple myself.
They could be sold flat w/ indents for bend location and bent local.


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In the pic the 35 has the aluminum PAT./ TOTALIZER plate,
the one on the left is a 32-33 top
The difference between a 33 and a 34 is.... the 34 will NOT have the notch on the bottom right
the 32-33-34 metal is all the same heigth
35 metal is taller without notch on bottom right due to mount ear being lowered in 1934
what is shown is a 33 top and a 35 top,
a 34 will be same heigth as 33 without the notch on the bottom right....
3 types of top sheetmetal for the 8" computers
2 types for the variator cover...1932-33 wide, 1934-35+ narrow


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Originally Posted By: hillsideshortleg
Is that a 1967 model 51 Leasure Dream chair? It looks like the burnt orange model, the one they called the THINKING Chair?


Not sure.... it was free & it's comfy....

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Originally Posted By: jkyocom


In the pic the 35 has the aluminum PAT./ TOTALIZER plate,
the one on the left is a 32-33 top
The difference between a 33 and a 34 is.... the 34 will NOT have the notch on the bottom right
the 32-33-34 metal is all the same heigth
35 metal is taller without notch on bottom right due to mount ear being lowered in 1934
what is shown is a 33 top and a 35 top,
a 34 will be same heigth as 33 without the notch on the bottom right....
3 types of top sheetmetal for the 8" computers
2 types for the variator cover...1932-33 wide, 1934-35+ narrow


I will send the computer out on Friday..... got any spare pieces of old sheet metal like those? they look pretty nice!

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I still need 1, 35 top and 1, 34 top.
I also need one 32 variator band.....approx 4 tall w/ hasp

There is also supposed to be a flat bar that goes on top, under the sheet metal that is bent at each end and threaded to accept the top dial face screw.
I have the three 8" bars I need but I still need one for a 10 3/4" computer from a Tokheim #36


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Boy, sounds like the sheet metal is some sought after stuff.... I have 1/2 of the top, and I do have the little bar that goes across the top and the top face screw attaches to it.

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most folks don't care about the sheet metal,
but I am trying to assemble a computer collection.
No one makes parts for computers, except the decals.
I could use a couple sets of NOS Flat wheels


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The computer you have is a 1933 model variator and needs the sheetmetal like the one on the left.
It will have 1 cutout on the other side for the mounting ear.
only 32 and 33 computers that went into Wayne 40 pumps had all three mounting ears on the same horizontal plane.
The sheet metal you would need could be identified by having two notches on one side and one on the other and no aluminum plate on the side.
Every variator after 1933 had 1 ear lowered like pic above.
I beleive that was so it could be tilted in the cabinet for easier removal.
By 1935 the variator and its mounts stayed the same until 1945, when there was another variator frame change.
The mounts on the new model were the same as the old.


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The Veeder Root has left the building... you should have it in a week.

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The previous owner of the pump stopped by with the pump motor and some other stuff.... luckily the lower band was with the parts!





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IS THERE A DECAL ON IT??????
Is is able to be uncovered?


Can anyone put the dimples in a piece of metal like that?


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Yes, yes there is a decal! would you like a picture of what's left of it?

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wd 40 may make it stand out better


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Joe--I felt you should see the sheet metal that was on my Wayne 40. Its shaped like the pieces you show but the whole unit is in 1 piece. I don't know the year of my VR, but maybe you remember from when you rebuilt it. It looks like the computer at the start of this thread. If you need more pictures, let me know. Did JimmyS have a picture of the decal that was recognizable (I'm assumming on the variator band)? I had a picture of the other decal on the sheetmetal and I sent it to DB a while back, so he has it and is making me a copy.---KEVIN





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That metal will fit Wayne 40 and will fit the computer in the first pic.
Here she is after her first bath.
It would be nice if someone with a laser cutter could make up a few sets of metal...I would take a few.



YEP,,,same computer as the pic on top


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Here is a list of the V/R sheet metal I have.

http://www.petrolianacollectibles.com/vr%20parts.htm

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A trip through the Ancient Chineese Secret Sauce


Jim....you are lucky...The 1 cent range plate from a 45 variator fit and will work for the plate that was missing.

more later smile
Dude....... I'm fix'n to have to split your head wide open... laugh


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SWEET!!!!!

The kids & I have watched 1970's commercials over & over again after your link......

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My decal was SHOT, I wd 40'd it and it was still not readable. I'LL TAKE ONE OF THOSE TOP BANDS IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME!!!!!

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Linkage keeper washer has popped off

Brake mech. came apart and was missing one arm

Theses are the most common problems w/ the older 8" computers


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Back together again

Now it's time for the(*&#@%^!!$%#*%!!!) DECALS


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Ahhh... I see the decals are your favorite!

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Next order is 7 computers, 6 w/ decals mad....aaaaahhhhhh cry crazy!!!!!!!


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Glad I snuck in first!!!

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WOW!!!!!

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