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I've always wondered about the authenticity of this sign. Thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Empire-State-Motor-O...=item5638eb591a

Never seen this sign before but the dealer that has it has had alot of questionable items. I would stay away from it!

That sign is real questionable. I would say away from it.

Paint looks nicely done for display, But in my opinion it looks homemade.

I DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT EITHER. SOMETHING DON'T LOOK RIGHT! JM2C!

I think this sign was made for TGIF Fridays.....I also looked at the sellers other items & most everything is legitimate & if its not the seller says so...If you ask me this seller is an honest one......

Are my eyes playing tricks on me again??? The reason I ask, is the seller says it is a dbl sided sign. To me the middle photo is of a single sided sign with a "homemade flange"?

That is exactly what I see- must of took pre picture before double sided sign was complete. BEWARE!

picture #1 is of side one & picture #4 is of side 2....

I've seen this same type sign two different years on the "World's Longest Yardsale". It does look newly made if you see it up close. I'd steer clear of this one. Just doesn't look right to me. Just my opinion....Dale

I guess I don't understand? Is it 2 single sided signs bolted together? Photo #3 is a single sided sign with a white back and painted front, or atleast it looks to me that way. Too me, a dbl sided sign is "embossed" or "painted" on both sides of a single piece of material.

I SEE THIS...

PIC #1 SHOWS THE FLANGE ON THE LEFT GOING AWAY FROM THE VIEWER.
PIC #4 SHOWS THE FANGE ON THE RIGHT COMING TOWARDS THE VIEWER.

CERTAINLY LEADS ME TO BELIEVE IT'S DOUBLE SIDED LIKE THE SELLER SAYS.

BUT PIC #3 IS MISLEADING!

Advertologist...it sure does speak of someones character when they bash others online when they don't even know them....I guess this sellers feedback is pure luck (100% positive...).

Help an old guy out here. I'm looking at the sign as I am typing this, I see 2 photos with flanges, #3 and #4. Photo #1 is a straight on shot that doesn't show a flange, just a rolled edge on both sides and #2 is close up of part of the sign. And as I pointed out, photo #3 is of a single sided sign with a white back. Also in photo #3 one can't tell if the sign is right side up or upside down because only the flange and back are shown.

Or atleast that is what my tired old eyes are seeing.

Grabber aren't you doing the same thing, that you are complaining that Advertologist is doing? Unless of course you know Advertologist personally?

I think in picture #3 the white sign is actually painted...but glare is making it look white?

I guess 2 wrongs don't make a right Bob...Have a nice night...

do you think the seller is saying for some reason the sign is a single sided sign with double flange's, like it would bolt to something. one pic. shows a bent flange, and one pic shows a straight flange, that's the way i see it.

Thats not a glare in picture #3, its a blank piece of metal! I think you're missing something here and its that the seller is claiming it could be aluminum (and looks like it). If it is, that pretty well says it all.

It's part of a can and never was a sign

Ray' I'm thinking it might have been made from a can too but the size is too big to be made from a 2 gal. or even a 10 qt. Definately looks like flimsy can material though. It could be a real item but I have my doubts;;;;;;;;;;;;;Ron

The seller says double sided, but did he mean double flanged????

"Here’s a great looking Empire State Motor Oil double sided flange sign"

If you reread the ad you will see that it is a "double sided flange". Meaning that it has Two Flanges, one on each side of the sign. The sign itself is not double sided. Looking at the pictures confirm this. We are just used to when someone says double sided we think picture on both sides.

The seller makes no claim as to the sign being old or original so I do not think they are making any false claims. If you are looking for old and original I do not believe this sign would be it. That's my 2 cents.
Mike

I don't belive it has 2 flanges, i believe it has one flange with 2 painted sides * i think picture #3 is glare or optical illusion.....It you look close at the scrathes & marks on all pictures, it will cinfirm there is 2 sides to this sign.....I still believe it was made for TGIF or similar restaurant chain....one way to find out what is what, email the seller.......

18" x 14" is too large to have been made from a 2 gal or 5 gal sq. can.
2 gal = 11 x 9
5 gal sq = 7 x 12 [adv area]
Could have been made from a 5 gal Round, but I've never seen any made w/ alum.

fresh cut tin plate can look like aluminum.

HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN SCROLLING TO THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE AD? IT CLEARLY SHOWS TWO PICTURES OF A DOUBLE SIDED SIGN WITH ONE FLANGE...NOT TWO!

Doc, I for one didn't scroll down that far. The 3rd photo was too much for me, lol.

those photos were added today after most of these posts....I'll bet the seller read this topic & added them today....

Geez that cleared things up!

YEAH, I NOTICED THAT AS WELL AFTER I POSTED THE FACT!

I stand corrected. Those last pictures that were added clear up all my confusion. I'll get back to my crack pipe now. HA Ha
Mike

easy mistake to make Mike especially with those photos..being a photographer i studied the photos & noticed that FACT yesterday when i posted ....

I STILL SAY IF YOU ENLARGE (BLOW-UP) PHOTO #1, YOU CAN SEE THE FLANGE ON THE LEFT SIDE TOP GOING AWAY FROM YOU EVEN CREATING A SHADOW ON THE WALL!

That’s funny how there is a plane flying at mid level on that sign. Didn’t a plane crash into the 42nd floor of the Empire in the thirties or forties.