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I'm not disagreeing with most of the sentiments expressed here about labeling repops.

But....let's be fair, most repops are done with the intention of looking like the original.

It's obvious these neon globes are not done in such a manner to try and fool anybody.

Even 20 years down the road if you can't tell these globes were constructed with materials not even available in the 50's I would question your sanity at even getting into collectables.

I think what some are refering to as the issue here is, that most of the components of this globe can be changed to old components IE: standoffs,housings transformers,lenses & 20 years down the road it would be difficult to tell the difference unless marked in some way or if you are an expert & i am sure that even if they are marked they can be altered, covered up etc..........its just like all the bogus clocks out there that are not marked..take an old body & marry it with a new unmarked face & you have a clock that most can't tell if its new or old....
now people who have a rare valuable original such as this neon body most likely will see the value fall, do to the same reasons for the drop in value of clocks,the value fell because are so many unmarked repos.....

Many, if not most in the hobby now, won't be in the hobby in 20 years. Like I said, I'm not worried about anyone getting fooled now. I'm worried about the future. We see the problem on ebay all the time.....my grandpa had this 12" sign in his barn for twenty years so it must be original. Everyone blames the sellers for being dishonest. Some may be, but others just don't know. The real problem is unmarked reproductions.

Old Racer,
What are these selling for? Do you have to supply a body or does the price include a repop body?

Road Relics
You know that these are a fantasy item right. How would you like to see them marked? They are make from repo bodys that are not marked oh no. We all still buy repo bodies and they are not marked I think they should start plasma cutting the word reproduction on the body starting at one side of the base and ending at the other side of the base. If the letters were big they may let out enough light that you would not need the neon. This has more to do with who made them than what they are.

ward zaharia

Ward these are not a fantasy idem. The one I posted a pic of is a original one not fantasy. It has a original tag on it stating the manufacture.

No i did not know these were a fantasy piece....after reading an earlier post by gasoildude i just fiqured there was an original...I know there was one with neon on the inside to illuminate the lenses but have never seen one with neon like this...as far as marking them, i think its rather fruitless unless you can fiqure out a way where they can't alter or hide the marking....

Ok I give.Did I missed something somewhere?How much are these going to be?

The maker of any repo/fantasy item that does Not Date the item doesn't care what happens to this hobby tomorrow or many years down the road.

The metal bodies were differant than the originals at one time but somebody decided they looked to fake so they fine tuned the things so now they look just like the originals. I am with Dick... any one who makes repo/fantasy item and does not date the item doesn't care what happens to this hobby today or many years down the road. Repop glass bodies are the same way... no way to tell.

I don't want people to think everyone on this site is against repops. That's not the case, everyone just wantsd to see it marked.
roadrelics that is a little extreme on marking as a repop but that would be fine with me. LOL

Price anyone? Just wondering what they cost. Roadracer... your buying one what are they running?

Hey Jarvis please don't mix up what i said with ward zaharia... It was ward zaharia's idea to plasma cut all the way around the body (reproduction) & i think it was a joke..HA HA...

Roadrelics

I think the way to go is to run the letters in the word reproduction in a large block letters around the body the same way as the neon. If they did this I do not think that you would need the neon they would let a lot of light out.


ward zaharia

All this Repro talk has me fired up again, I am sick of this hobby, I have been stripping my walls, loading my trailer and I am going on a road trip. Selling everything! I think I'll start collecting Pez dispensers, or are those repopped too

First off, why is this on For Sale? If you want to know how much they cost, why not ask D.Buck? Mine was free. As for the rest, like I said, it's pretty simple. I'm not a big collector. I just have some Gas & Oil stuff I keep because I grew up with it. I do have some original metal bodies and I have some Slama bodies. I think it's easy to see which is which. As for swapping out components to make it look old. Come on really. Where do I get them? From an original body? I want one or more for the display of the couple of lenses I have. I would even consider having a few more made locally, if I can. I see no reason why they can’t be dated. Did anyone ask Buck? Did he say no? I don’t think he would have a problem with it. But I am not Buck.

i understand the concept Ward, however i did not want to take credit for your idea...

oldracer...."come on really ? where do you get the old components??" try from old 1930's 40's .signs, clocks, neon displays, which would have used the same exact components as the neon bodies, except the lenses....as i said before, the standoffs, housings, transformers, wiring would all be the same if they came from a sign, clock, globe body, neon display...do you think they made special components for these bodies???