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#106771 Thu Jan 03 2008 06:15 AM
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Occasionally when I travel, I only have a dial-up connection to the Internet. It gives me a reality view of how many of you have to wait for images and pages to load. As more of you have gotten high speed Internet, the file sizes of images posted have increased. This is of little concern to cable and DSL users who have everything at high speed. Dial-up users have to wait long periods for those images. On some pages, they may never get to see them because of time limits built into the system.

Recently, more PNG format images are being posted. Generally PNG image files are bigger and therefore slower to load than JPG format images.

JPG images can be adjusted with most image software to a lower "quality" setting to drastically save at a lower file size. An 80% JPG compressed image to the human eye is nearly identical to a 100% image but is only a tiny fraction of the file size.

Please look in your image or scanning software for compression adjustments to save JPG at smaller file sizes. If you don't need to use PNG format, please use JPG instead to conserve file transfer times.

There is seldom a valid reason to post an image larger than 100k in file memory size. Images that are 500k and 1000k are a roadblock to dial-up viewers.

Not everyone has an option to go to high speed Internet. Thanks for your cooperation to include dial-up members in the enjoyment of this forum.

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#106772 Thu Jan 03 2008 09:44 AM
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Does it make a difference if the image is posted on something like Image Shack, vs. using an ISP's storage space?

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Not really. A large file takes along time to down load on dial-up.
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Would it be best to use the thumbprint file on image frog or just the 640 / 800 web site siding???? Thanks Cash

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And remember to 'Save' the file as only a 72 dpi resolution.

Anything higher is a waste of time and energy for web posting.

Computer screens are only 72 dpi - so the extra file size serves no purpose and does not improve the clarity or sharpness on the screen.

Later . . .

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All dial-up users don't agree that thumbnails linked to larger images are the best way to do it.

In a perfect world, a page with a lot of thumbnail images would load quickly and viewers would be able to chose the images they want to see enlarged. The dividing issue is that the larger images can be packaged with lots of advertising that also takes time to load and that the larger image may have a huge file size that takes forever to load by itself.

On a page with just a few images, thumbnails are not as important for dial-up users as they are on a Showcase page with dozens of large images.

The real critical issue is to reduce the file size on the images in the first place. An image physical size should be no larger than 640 x 480 pixels and the memory file size should be less than 100k, with 50k being a practical size. ImageShack has a checkbox to resize (and optimize) on their home page upload form. Their 640 x 480 option works quite well.

Some users get upset by the free image host's advertising. But everyone needs to understand that the free service's expenses must be paid for in some way. I recommend using a pop-up blocker and just ignore ads that don't interest you.

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#106777 Thu Jan 03 2008 06:52 PM
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I vote for no thumbnails but then again I am a broadband user. If a post has thumbnails I skip it most the time.


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And again my advertisement for Photobucket which offers the same resizing advantages as Imageshack without the annoying pop ups and other junk. Also lots of storage space and I believe that they offer a thumbnail option, but being one of those DSL pigs I prefer the 640 x 480 images in the post.

Appreciate the reminder Jim. I do sometimes forget to dumb down my images before I post them.


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I tried Photobucket on Curts recommendation, and I am satisfied with them at a storage point for pictures I want to share. Heres an example of size on a pic stored on Photobucket.
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I have Dial-up.
Image posted by fast66 was a quick down load.
On the service station thread, Jack R's pictures don't load as fast as most of the other pic. I have lost my connection waiting on some of his images.
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DB, I use imageshack when I post don't know very much about computers followed nochevys tutorial. Jack

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Jim,
Is there a reason you use imageshack over photobucket? If there is a vote here, I find photobucket easier to use and the pic fast66 posted from photobucket is awesome.
John


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#106783 Fri Jan 04 2008 02:06 PM
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Jack, not picking on ya, I also use ImageShack. It's just that your pictures are the last to load on any page I look at. Doesn't matter if they are the 1st ones or the last on the page.
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Db, I use to be on dial-up but I got high speed a while back all pictues were slow for me then now they show up fairly fast. Does any one else have this problem with my photos? any one have any ideas why? Jack

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I'm on high speed and I have trouble with your photos loading slowly Jack.
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