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Anyone have a picture of an original meter in a short 39 tokheim. Not sure I got the right meters in these.

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Craig,
The pumps in the picture are not 39s, they are Tokheim 300s.

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I have a totally original and unrestored 1957 model Tokheim 300 with the meter and can post a picture of it if that will help. I may have to remove the porcelain face plate to see the full meter but I dont think that wll be much trouble.
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You are right Jack, I made the mistake. Thank you and yes If someone could post a picture it would be great.


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Let me know if the photos help. I only had to remove 3 screws to get the meter plate off.

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Yes that helps. Is the meter embossed?


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Craig there were two styles of computers used on the 300. The one on the right is correct and will take the face plates that are repoped. The one on the left I cann't tell. On the second style computer. The numbers are longer and it has two totalizers. The repop face plates will not fit on these computers. Richard

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The white numbers on each dial are actually recessed. Is that what you are referring to?

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Yep two different type of computers depending on if they are a crankback or semiautomatic. The crankback take the style pictured by Fry 117 and the semiautos take the newer skinner computers with the larger wheels and thick aluminum sides as opposed to the thin tin sided ones. Hope this helps.

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The pump on the left with the red top takes the crank back Veeder Root model 49 computer which is in the pump on the right. Notice on the nozzle rest on the left pump,that is the give away on which computer, I cannot see the nozzle rest on the right pump.
The semi automatic Veeder Root model 56 computer which is pictured in the pump on the left goes in a Tokheim 300 that uses a totally different nozzle rest, it has a curved lever that has to be turned to rest the nozzle.
I know this sounds a little confusing, nobody said I could write, LOL.
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That sounds correct, for I have a lever for one of them. Thanks all for the help. Meters are very confusing to me, as we just got the whole lot and new not where or which one went where.


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Just to remind everyone, Veeder-Root only guaranteed their computers for 21 months.
If you owned a station with one of these pumps and the VR failed, you did not send it out to be repaired, you needed to pump gas. You called the rebuilder or anyone who serviced service station equipment. He came out as soon as he could, he brought with him a rebuilt computer. No one cared if it was resessed numbers, no one cared if it was white on black or black on white, it just had to fit the pump.
The chances of anyone finding a pump today with the original computer still in it are, whatever - 1. You need to find one still in the box to determine the answer. Even Tokheim literature doesn't answer this question.

The above applies to someone telling us that this pump he has for sale still had the original nozzle on it. Again, whatever - 1.

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Yes, I will agree that the nozzle on my Tokheim 300 does not appear to be original. Obviously the globe is not original. I just put one of those after market jobs on there because I thought it looked cool. Since the subject was about the meter portion that was the area I was referring to as being original but I guess there is no way to be for sure. It looks pretty old though and the guy I got it from had 2 others pumps just like it that came from a station near Birmingham , AL. By the way, I mentioned that it was a 1957 model but the plate on the side says Feb, 1956. I have never tried to get the meter to work but it all seems to be there so maybe one day I can get that part of it funtional. Thanks for the info guys.


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