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#614689 Sun May 24 2015 10:05 PM
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Hi guys,

Newbie question here. In my short time as a collector I've only seen a couple big square cans, and they where all 40s or earlier. I picked this one up and was surprised as the logo on the can was first used in 1951 best I know. Just wondering how late they where made and any other interesting details. Thanks
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Hey Mike,,, I never heard of them being newer than the 40's, I bought this one yesterday,, nice early Canadian tin..not sure of the dating on them ..I see yours is 4 gallon tin and mine is the earlier 5 gallon tin,, didn't know they made 4 gallon square ones.

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Awesome can Wes!


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Such cans were being used up into the 1950s/60s.... As too how long such cans were being made, I can not answer that question... But, I know they were being repurposed; within Oil Company's...

Like Mike's version, most if not all the ones I've seen from the 1950s forward had either paper labels or "water transfer decal type" labels on them... Some that I've seen still had faint painted backgrounds that really couldn't be made out....

Here is one I own, that had been repurposed:



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According to this article Home Oil it is older than 1929, so that would be an appropriate time period for this can in their early years.
I wonder if they used that logo before incorporation? Changed it and then later brought it back? Would not be the first time a company did that.

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"Home Oil Company was incorporated in Canada under the Dominion Companies Act on September 19, 1929, to acquire the assets and business of a company with the same name."


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On Ebay is a Veedol "Flying V" 5 gal can made for/sold in, the French Market... It is from the late 1950s; as the label reads "Tidewater Oil Company"... So the can must have been labeled after 1956....



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Not sure why the Home Kerosene tin is 4 Imperial gallons and not 5 ??? anyone ?


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Wes,

4 Imperial Gallons is the same a 5 Gallons.

Some 5 quart cans are marked 1 Imperial Gallon.


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Andy , I think your getting confused with US gallons and Imperial gallons,,
It takes 5 US quarts to make an Imperial gallon. We have 4 Imperial quarts in a Imperial gallon.
Your quarts are smaller than our ( Imperial quart).. We don't have Imperial quarts anymore but you know what I mean.. we have been doing our measurement in "litres" for a long time..I think like 40 yrs.
We also had 5 quart cans and 6 quart cans in Canada.. ( they would be Imperial quarts)..but they weren't called gallons.
Back to the original question, I wasn't aware we in Canada had "4 gallon cans"....back in the day.
Hope that all wasn't too confusing.. smile


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Originally Posted By: Wes Hague
Andy , I think your getting confused with US gallons and Imperial gallons,,
It takes 5 US quarts to make an Imperial gallon. We have 4 Imperial quarts in a Imperial gallon


...no, Andy's quite right:

...if "it takes 5 US quarts to make an Imperial gallon", then 4 Imperial gallons equals 20 US quarts...there are 4 US quarts in a US gallon - 20 divided by 4, is 5...

...so, 4 Imperial gallons equals 5 US gallons...

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You are correct that 4 Imperial gallons equals 5 US gallons...
But Andy said " 4 Imperial Gallons is the same a 5 Gallons." he didn't say US Gallons. ( my mistake for not assuming he meant US Gallons)..
But my original question was " Not sure why the Home Kerosene tin is 4 Imperial gallons and not 5 ??? anyone ?" Living in Canada all my life I never heard of a 4 Imperial Gallon tin I thought they were all 5 gallon tins ?


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Andy's reply to my question wasn't an answer that had anything to do with my question.

Wes...4 Imperial Gallons is the same a 5 Gallons.

Some 5 quart cans are marked 1 Imperial Gallon.

Canadian 5 quart cans are marked just that, 5 quart can. ( to the best of my knowledge)..

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Thanks for all the info fellas, the mystery continues, lol. I also thought the 4 imperial gallon size was a bit odd. It's not a paper label either, it's a painted on label.


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Mike, yes they used in Canada the square 4 imperial gallon tins into the fifties and possibly early sixties too. A lot were for the farm trade and usually contained petroleum products such as Kerosene, Naphtha, etc.

Wes, as to why the 4 and 5 gallon tins were both used in Canada I am not certain. It isn't the case that one was earlier. I have seen literature from 1887 requesting either size from Imperial Oil for light house oil. It could be that the companies wanted a particular size for a certain product. Also it might be that the freight rates could have been cheaper for a certain size and weight during a certain period. They shipped a lot by train back then, even gas pump globes. After I cleaned out my garage I only kept a few of the large square tins. The two Imperials on the right are 4 gallon and the other three are 5 gallon. If you find a better answer do let us know. Cheers, Don.


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Don, glad you chimed in on this, I thought you might be the guy that would have a fair opinion,,,
I bought this Enarco 5 gallon last Sunday at a show,,, think I got it at a fair price,, would you send me a PM on what you think it should be worth as I have a buyer for it..
much appreciated.. or maybe we could do a trade on your Buffalo,,, eek grin wink laugh

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