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Posted By: gasoildude Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 07:30 PM
I was browsing on feebay today & came across the images of these cans. I thought these cans looked familiar & low & behold they are my cans off of my web site. I contacted the seller & asked them who gave them permission to use the images of the cans off my site & that I was never asked if anyone could use them. The first link is to my site with the pic of the cans & the second is the ebay listing. Can I turn this seller in to ebay or would it be a waste of my time?

http://petrobarn.com/barn/main.php/v/cans/IMG_2505.JPG.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powerlene-PennEs...=item1e782e91f0
Posted By: THE AMERICAN GARAGE Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 07:39 PM
Nothing is sacred! Not even pictures we share on the internet. I put my name/I.D. on the bottom of pics all the time. I know cruel people can crop that off and do whatever they want. As a matter of fact I have seen other members use my photographs w/o my permission. What can you do?

Another example is the Non-Petro thread "Post a Random Picture." Many of the pics that members post here are not theirs. Next question is, did they have permission to use it? Just sayin'.

Sorry Brad, I have no prognosis for what you next step should be.
Posted By: 57tbirdkid Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 08:28 PM
Ebay does not care about stolen images on items or lisitngs. They have the report feature but that is useless.
Posted By: trifiver Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 08:33 PM
Ebay does care if they are your pictures

they is a link to report it


Sid
Posted By: Jack Sim Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 09:18 PM
About five years ago a fellow OG member posted that he had found a neat website. I looked at it, it was someone in France and he had copied every page of my last Gas Pump Identification book and posted it on his website.

I see pictures taken from my book and website all the time, both here on OG and on Ebay. I always send the person a emial asking them pull it.

Jack Sim
Posted By: s932 Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 09:24 PM
I believe this is why a lot of people quit posting pictures of there stuff here on the site. Sign of the times how can I do as little as possible and make the most money off of someone.
Posted By: DasFast1 Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 09:56 PM
Brad I think you probably did the best thing you could by contacting the seller and asking questions. Next thing to do is watch it and when it sells ask for your Royalty fee! grin
Posted By: Old Iron Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 09:56 PM
BINGO!! Shawn.Your comment "a lot of people quit posting pictures of their stuff here on the site"is dead on.A few of us around here have what I think is true Category 5 stuff;Fewer than ten known to exist,and in some cases identified only by photographs.I think they will never be posted on here;I know mine won't.

That situation is,IMO,really sad because true collectors will never even know they exist.Some of them are worth $$$$ while others are not,which to me is of little importance because those pieces ARE history!!
Posted By: Oldgas Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 10:24 PM
I'd definitely click the Report link on the auction. If they don't have their own picture of the can, they may not have a can like that at all. So it could be a total scam.
Posted By: 57tbirdkid Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 11:11 PM
I run a eBay store for a Very large company. Many people have stolen our images(watemarked ones too). I have reported it, contacted eBay on numerous occasions with no luck. They always tell you they will remove it. 1 out of 20 times an item will be removed. Coutless times items were relisted and the cycle continued with no action taken by ebay
Posted By: mapper Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 11:33 PM
When a picture with a watermark is reused, are the offenders simply doing what they can to remove the watermark? just curious...
Posted By: 57tbirdkid Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 09 2013 11:58 PM
No they put In their listing with the watemark
Posted By: Jack Sim Re: Image Stealing???? - Sun Mar 10 2013 12:51 AM
I use two different watermarks, one created my by photo editing program, the other is a strip of paper with my website address going across the image. Takes a little time to remove the strip.

Jack Sim
Posted By: 72Scamp Re: Image Stealing???? - Sun Mar 10 2013 02:02 AM
I would report it to ebay. The same exact thing happened to me, and within 24 hrs of reporting it to ebay, the auction was pulled. But, then again, this happened 10 yrs ago, I don't know if they are still as diligent.
Posted By: Signs&Neons Re: Image Stealing???? - Sun Mar 10 2013 03:15 AM
Good idea Jack, the watermark is a good start, but that strip through the photo really makes it obvious....
Posted By: tomzcollectiblez Re: Image Stealing???? - Sun Mar 10 2013 12:12 PM
I too quit posting my rare items because of the image ending up on ebay as a magnet, repo oil can or sign. I will try to watermark my pics also...
As for getting mad about writing a book and then someone using those picture??? I purchased the book and if I wanna print out a pic or use a pic out of it then I will. Its mine!
Total different story to steal images!
Too bad oldgas cant lock the images and keep people from downloading or saving the images to disc?
I keep my photobucket private so noone can steal them.
Posted By: Nucky Re: Image Stealing???? - Sun Mar 10 2013 12:31 PM
Originally Posted By: tomzcollectiblez

I keep my photobucket private so noone can steal them.


since the new version of photobucket, private albums are open to public since they have many problems with the new version...
Posted By: gasoildude Re: Image Stealing???? - Sun Mar 10 2013 02:15 PM
How can you put water marks on your images? I never have attempted to do this so it is new to me.
Posted By: Dick Bennett Re: Image Stealing???? - Sun Mar 10 2013 03:46 PM
Once an image/picture is posted on the internet there is NO WAY of stopping it from being copied. JP can disable the right click for Save This Image, but anyone w/ a camera can photograph their monitor screen. Using a Water Mark just takes time to remove in Photo Shop [or some other program]. Posting a picture out of Focus takes longer to cleanup the image same as posting an image at an angle. Most copiers need to just see the General layout of the image/sign/globe/etc.
VERY FEW have the resources to pursue a legal battle to protect an image that was posted. Coke, Harley, Ford, Chevy, etc. have ALL gone after the larger manufactures of Image Infringement, but will Never be able stop the backyard/alley cats.

At the recent gas show I was at, an Oldgas member that Despises ME [LOL] Couldn't resist taking a picture of my recent pump purchase when I was away from selling spot!
Posted By: lordparaffin Re: Image Stealing???? - Tue Mar 12 2013 06:40 AM
Dick is right about the legal aspect. You would go broke countless times over trying to go after photo infringement.

From what I'm reading, it sounds like the bad boys are winning......people are starting to stop posting images, withdrawing to their little world and participating less overall with those of us playing by the rules and hoping for some help. That's a shame. The world is what it is. I for one refuse to let them keep me from enjoying my hobby and participating. I spent a lot of time on my little guide to light tins and shared it with everyone with very little appreciation. But I ENJOYED doing it and truely believe I helped someone along the way. Yes there are collections with trophy pieces or collections of absolute size and grandure to appreciate but I'd say the majority of us are much more modest in our aquisitions. I'd share the most common item in my small collection if I'd thought it would help someone else out. I'm not criticizing anyone or taking sides, just trying to get people to think about WHY they collect.
Posted By: gulfiend! Re: Image Stealing???? - Tue Mar 12 2013 03:39 PM
Originally Posted By: tomzcollectiblez
As for getting mad about writing a book and then someone using those picture??? I purchased the book and if I wanna print out a pic or use a pic out of it then I will. Its mine!


...actually Tom, that's not at all true...most (if not all) books have legal in the front that affirms copyright of the contents, and prohibits the reuse of material from the book without written permission from the publisher...

...if they didn't, then anyone could copy any book and sell it as their own...
Posted By: Cold Pizza Re: Image Stealing???? - Tue Mar 12 2013 03:43 PM
100% true.
Posted By: Vermonter Re: Image Stealing???? - Wed Mar 13 2013 01:46 AM
If you post it on the internet, or have it in public view, anyone can use it or take a picture of it because its in the public domain. This includes pictures of yourself in public view (even in your own yard) unless used for commercial purposes. If you have it copyrighted,or trademarked, you do have legal recourse, but as others have pointed out, its rarely worth the bother. They are very difficult cases to prove and unless the offender has made a LOT of money using your image, no lawyer will take the case.
Posted By: hri_2008 Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 16 2013 08:33 AM
The very same thing happens with music and movie posters. Some people never buy a DVD movie or audio CD. They just make a copy from a friend or take it from the internet.
Many movie poster collectors including meyself have had images of very rare posters stolen and used to make magnets, coffee mugs, t-shirts and smaller size posters. Many of these items are being sold on ebay.
Posted By: Oldgas Re: Image Stealing???? - Sat Mar 16 2013 06:53 PM
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