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Birmingham Visible Pump 1924

Posted By: FRY 117

Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Thu Mar 07 2019 01:53 AM

Hey folks, just wondering if anyone had information on the visible gas pumps made by the Birmingham Machine and Foundry Company out Birmingham, AL in the mid 1920's? I have found very little information about them and was curious if any of you have one of these or have seen one. Thanks in advance. Tony

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Posted By: philmccauley

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 08 2019 12:15 AM

I don't have any info but that is a very nice pump.
Posted By: bsplichal95

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 08 2019 01:38 AM

Sweet pump.... wow!
Posted By: FRY 117

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 08 2019 02:26 AM

Thanks Phil. I was just amazed that it was made in Birmingham, AL. I've never known of any pumps to be manufactured in the Southeast from that era.
Posted By: FRY 117

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 08 2019 02:27 AM

Thank you.
Posted By: Jack Sim

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 08 2019 05:02 AM

In my new Gas Pump Bible book I list all the known companies that made a gas pump. There are over 215 companies listed (my first book had only 125). This is what I have found on Birmingham: "Birmingham Machine & Foundry Company. Birmingham, having started in business in 1883, didn't manufacture a gas pump until 1926. This was the only pump advertised by the company. It is unknown what happened to Birmingham."

Jack Sim
Posted By: FRY 117

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 08 2019 02:16 PM

Yes Jack, the information from your book was about all I could find on the Birmingham Machine and Foundry Company or "BMFC". You have two illustrated pictures of Birmingham pumps. One is a 10 gallon model (401D) and the other is a 5 gallon model (400-UD). Mine is identical to your 5 gallon model but the model number on its manufacturer plate says 300 R. I read that prior to construction of gas pumps the "BMFC" primarily constructed heavy equipment for the sugar cane industry. Thanks for sharing all of your valuable information. Tony
Posted By: petropumps

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 08 2019 06:12 PM

I’ve seen a couple identical to yours over the years...both down south. One in Texas and another in a collection in Georgia. I don’t have any info on company history though...must have been a relatively small outfit.
Posted By: FRY 117

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 08 2019 06:47 PM

Thanks for the info. I will agree that probably only a handful were made. I would enjoy seeing pictures if anyone else has one of these pumps.
Posted By: gasmansgp

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 08 2019 09:05 PM

Tony, I have a five gallon Birmingham which I just sold to a Colorado client. We will be restoring it to Cities Service before shipping it West. I heard that Miles Little has one? With yours, mine and Miles', I now know of three? Paul www.severngaspumps.com
Posted By: FRY 117

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 08 2019 09:20 PM

I appreciate that information Paul. Any chance you have a picture of your 5 gallon Birmingham? I'm still amazed that I've lived in Alabama my entire life (53 yrs) and never heard about these until now. By the way mine is complete minus the lower access door in the front. Probably a 1 in a million chance that someone might have one for sale but I guess it's worth asking. Thanks again!

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Posted By: gasmansgp

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Sat Mar 09 2019 09:46 PM

Tony, Check out my site. Look under the heading { Recently Purchased Collections } Scroll down...You will find it in the Sold section. Paul www.severngaspumps.com
Posted By: FRY 117

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Sun Mar 10 2019 02:10 AM

Thank you for sharing that Paul. Yours looks very similar to my 5 gallon Birmingham. Two things I noticed...Yours appears to have a drain back for the nozzle at the bottom and if I'm not mistaken yours has internal gallon markers opposed to the external ones mine has on the cylinder rods. I'm assuming the hail guard on mine is original or at least has a good bit of age on it. One thing I would be interested in is if your pump still had the manufacturer ID plate on it. Mine shows that it is a Model 300 R and Number 1094 which I assume is its production number. It would be interesting to know how closely the ID plates on these two pumps matched up. Thanks again! Tony
Posted By: Tico man

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 15 2019 12:26 AM

I noticed the skins look like a Gilbert and Barker....Wonder if they measure the same?????? Did they buy them as a part in manufacturing of there own pump???
Posted By: Jack Sim

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 15 2019 01:37 AM

Some more info.

All the ads I have for Birmingham are from 1926 & 1927. The same picture is used in every one of them.
1926: ad states it comes with foot valve, hose, hose nozzle and lock. States both 5 gal. & 10 gal. 10 gal bowl fills in 16 seconds. Has two sets of brass gallon markers. They call it the 400 UD Birmingham.
1927: takes only 11 strokes to fill the 10 gal. bowl. Wired for light. Six strokes and eight seconds to fill the 5 gal. bowl.

Jack Sim
Posted By: FRY 117

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 15 2019 07:20 PM

Tico, I thought the same thing when I first bought it but there are some differences in the two. I happen to have a G&B 176 pictured next to the Birmingham. The skins on the Birmingham are about 4 inches taller. Also the Birmingham has heavy steel bands up the sides that the G&B does not feature. The tapered or funneled neck on the Birmingham is more subtle than the G&B. Hope this helps! Thanks, Tony

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Posted By: FRY 117

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Fri Mar 15 2019 07:31 PM

That is great information Jack. Very interesting that they advertise the 6 strokes to fill the 5 gallon bowl. The crank on mine is actually free and moves around 360 degrees. Makes a heck of a squeaky racket but I'm working on that. The Birmingham is the only one of my visible pumps that the "hand crank" is not locked up. I would really like to buy one of the original ads for the Birmingham pump if you or anyone else has one for sale. Even a reproduction one would be nice. Thanks again! Tony
Posted By: Jack Sim

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Sat Mar 16 2019 05:03 AM

Fry 117

Email me at jhsim@petrocollect.com and I will send you the info on the ads I have.

Jack Sim
Posted By: FRY 117

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Sat Mar 16 2019 11:36 PM

Sent you an email this morning. Thanks, Tony
Posted By: FRY 117

Re: Birmingham Visible Pump 1924 - Sun Mar 31 2019 04:15 PM

I haven't seen your email yet Jack. Should I have received it by now?
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