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Posted By: LAWFISH Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Sun Apr 09 2017 02:19 AM
I have a guy who I have bought a few cars from. He has a wayne visible pump thats missing its top. He wants $350 fr the pump but I want to make sure I can get a replacement or repop top for it. He finding the pieces he has and getting me a few pics hopefully tomorrow

he can not find a number on it to identify the mod.

any suggestions. If get pics do you think we can identify the type to see if I can get a repop top?

who sells the repops ect?

Thanks hopefully pics coming.
Not to worry! Tops for Wayne pumps are available fairly easily and repops are also available. If most of the pump is there, you have a great deal going!
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Sun Apr 09 2017 03:49 AM
Thanks, where is the best place to buy them so I can take a look?

Thx Dave
www.vics66.com is a good place for new parts.
There are several members on here that sell original parts and if you post on the wanted to buy section, you sure might find what you need? Old Gas members Tom Buckles and Ryan Underthun, both have extensive original parts inventories.
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Sun Apr 09 2017 01:57 PM
Thanks
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Sun Apr 09 2017 04:00 PM
As things typically go with some folks and trying to get pictures the modern way, my seller is having issues

In talking with him this morning he was trying to find parts and get me pics. He now realizes he is also missing other parts.

So it seems, he is not just missing the top dome, but also the three rods and top ring? Now I dont know all the nomenclature or names for all these parts. But it sounds like its missing everything from the center round section up>

That said Im looking at Vics and gas heaven and I see the universal dome is cheap and Im fine with one of those. But what are the rods called and the top ring called that the done rest upon?

Im just trying to see if its worth the $350 as he is heading this way tomorrow early and if it is he will drop it off. He is firm on the price and pumps like this (visible) are hard to come by.

I was hoping to have pics so you could see what he has and give me some advise

Dave

also, I see a ring on the gas heaver and its called a " jar lid"? where does that go on the pump?

thx
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Sun Apr 09 2017 04:30 PM
OK, well I got some pics. Not what I was hoping fr but here they are.








Posted By: keithia Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Sun Apr 09 2017 04:33 PM
Those parts are the cylinder rods and jar lid. Not really a big deal. Most important part is to make sure the glass cylinder is there and is perfect shape. $350 is a great deal if the only parts missing are the parts you mentioned.
Posted By: keithia Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Sun Apr 09 2017 04:35 PM
You posted while I was typing. Looks like a parts pump to me. I don't see the cylinder as that would still be worth $350 by itself if good.
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Sun Apr 09 2017 04:57 PM
Yea, thats it in parts. He said he will trow in a top from a different pump if he finds it and we settled at $250.00

Plus thats delivered. I think I can buy what else I need over time and build one for my island. I appreciate all the help.

I have bought a few cars from him as well and this is also helping him out so that helps me down the road
Looks like a Wayne 83, but the skins look like they are Tokheim. Richard
The price is low and you have lots of reasons to buy from him, but what you are buying is nothing but a bunch of parts! If you really want a visible pump, your best bet is to buy a complete one that someone is willing to sell. These things aren't that rare and you will end up with about twice the value by trying to put it together piece by piece! You can always buy the complete pump cheaper than trying to accumulate it piece by piece. ALWAYS!
Not sure what that pump is, but it is definitely not a Wayne. Looks like maybe a tokheim? Not much value there?
There is a photo of a complete Wayne 615 in this thread, for your information. Completely different from what you have.

http://oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showgallery&Number=679677#Post679677
Posted By: cggas Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Mon Apr 10 2017 12:13 AM
Those are tokheim skins for sure.
Posted By: Jack Sim Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Mon Apr 10 2017 02:30 AM
If you are looking for pictures these pages of my website might help you.
If it is a Tokheim it is probably in the 600, so just click on any of the 600 models: http://petrolianacollectibles.com/tokheim%20pumps.htm

If it is possible a Wayne (and I don't think it is) it is probably in the 500 Models on this page: http://petrolianacollectibles.com/wayne%20pumps.htm

Jack Sim
Posted By: GHH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Mon Apr 10 2017 02:03 PM
I just restored a Tokheim 600 series, and those are Tokheim. The interior, and base of this pump are completely different.

The skins appear to be shot but repros are readily available.

Still seems like a very attractive price for what your getting.
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Mon Apr 10 2017 02:07 PM
Originally Posted By K W FRITH
The price is low and you have lots of reasons to buy from him, but what you are buying is nothing but a bunch of parts! If you really want a visible pump, your best bet is to buy a complete one that someone is willing to sell. These things aren't that rare and you will end up with about twice the value by trying to put it together piece by piece! You can always buy the complete pump cheaper than trying to accumulate it piece by piece. ALWAYS!
Not sure what that pump is, but it is definitely not a Wayne. Looks like maybe a tokheim? Not much value there?




I understand what your saying. I have the intention of building this little island and gas station n front of y shop. Right now Im waiting for the ground to dry and then its a home foundation followed by a home build on my pond, out of pocket. So this parts pump when I thought it may be a wayne was ok for me. I cant afford to spend much of my construction money right now and this guy comes across cars and trucks I buy and flip some of them. Im getting it today and hes dropping it off.

Im hoping I can at least identify it and buy a few parts down the line to make it look like a pump.

I will post better pics when I get it.

I also need to correctly identify the pump I do have and get a glass cylinder for it.

I made skins for that one. So although I love this stuff, I cant afford to spend much money right now and if this was from some stranger I wouldnt buy it.

Thanks for all the help, I will get it, see if the skins even fit at all.

Dave
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Mon Apr 10 2017 02:09 PM
Let me ask this. if its some odd pump, will the rods that hold the jar lid typically fit most pumps? If so Im not opposed to buy a jar lid of some sort and universal top to start with to at least make it look like a pump.


I guess I am asking f any of the pmps paqrts interchange?
Dave
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Mon Apr 10 2017 02:35 PM
Originally Posted By Jack Sim
If you are looking for pictures these pages of my website might help you.
If it is a Tokheim it is probably in the 600, so just click on any of the 600 models: http://petrolianacollectibles.com/tokheim%20pumps.htm

If it is possible a Wayne (and I don't think it is) it is probably in the 500 Models on this page: http://petrolianacollectibles.com/wayne%20pumps.htm

Jack Sim



Jack I am not familiar with any of these but Im looking at the Tokheim pics of the interior structures, the 600s have 3 three main pipes that run the distance from top to bottom.

This thing had four.

No in looking at the picture I was provided it may be the pic but it looks like the base holes for those pipes are wider than the four pipes on the portion that attaches to it. !

The pipe bottoms are also bent a bit but I will measure then t see if they fit into the base holes. I at least need that if Im going to fork out any cash He led me to believe that they fit, now he does not sound so sure.
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Mon Apr 10 2017 10:32 PM
Ok I bought it all. I dont know why other than he needed some cash. But the base does not fit the four pipes as its wider. I paid $120 for it and he threw in the globe top which is trash.

the pipes on dead center are 9 1/2 wide and the base is like 10 1/2

the base is 22 inches wide.

There is a plate on the inside of the door skin but I can not read anything.

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Dave

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Dave I sent you an Email with some pictures. Richard
Posted By: JimT Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Tue Apr 11 2017 12:42 AM
Why is the globe body "trash"? Did you pay $120 for everything?
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Thu Apr 13 2017 12:49 PM
Originally Posted By JimT
Why is the globe body "trash"? Did you pay $120 for everything?


Yea $120 for the works. The back side of that globe body is pretty bad.
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Thu Apr 13 2017 12:50 PM
Originally Posted By gatorgaspumps
Dave I sent you an Email with some pictures. Richard


sorry didnt receive an email. svmopars@gmail.com
Posted By: LAWFISH Re: Need advise on top 4 a Wayne visible pump? missng - Thu Apr 13 2017 05:22 PM
Originally Posted By gatorgaspumps
Dave I sent you an Email with some pictures. Richard


Richard I got the pics and the info on the Boyle Dayton. It sure likes like one and at least I can get parts for it.

Im hoping to get some time in a few days to check it out better and see what fits. I did look at gas pump heaven and they do make a "UNIVERSAL JAR LID". Do you think thats a good piece to grab or am I better off getting an original part and if so, who is a good source?

I see they make a front door for this pump. Do they make the rods in the cylinder that hold up the bird cage?

Two of the four mounting pipes are bent and will have to be straightened out.

Dave

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